Recording police officers in public now illegal

[sil3nt]

This made me laugh

Graber said he has since sold the motorcycle for $5,000, far less than the $10,500 he says he paid for it a year earlier. He said he still owed several thousand dollars on the bike but took the loss. "I don't want to ever have a motorcycle again," he said.

HTFU pussy

[jahrasti]

bit of a difference between banning all videoing of cops and prosecuting likely ter'ists. Like the vid above, cop pulls over some guy who has his helmet cam on at time, cop doesn't follow procedure and harras's biker with a gun ffs. what is wrong with recording that? quickest way to get such cops to clean up their act I reckon.

How do you know that the cop didn't follow procedure? Do you know the procedure for conducting a vehicle stop in the state that this happened? If you do please explain as I don't and would like to know.

You are implying that this cop is dirty and harassing the biker, please enlighten me?

P.S I don't actually expect a reply as it is a bit of a thread dredge!!

[Max Preload]

How do you know that the cop didn't follow procedure? Do you know the procedure for conducting a vehicle stop in the state that this happened? If you do please explain as I don't and would like to know.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and (from memory - I haven't watch the video again) I'm going to say that cutting across the front of another vehicle in an unmarked car with no lights of siren and leaping from that vehicle with a firearm in your hand, not identifying yourself as a Police Officer and telling the vehicle operator to get off his vehicle isn't within the realms of possibility procedure in ANY state.

How say you, savage?

[jahrasti]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and (from memory - I haven't watch the video again) I'm going to say that cutting across the front of another vehicle in an unmarked car with no lights of siren and leaping from that vehicle with a firearm in your hand, not identifying yourself as a Police Officer and telling the vehicle operator to get off his vehicle isn't within the realms of possibility procedure in ANY state.

How say you, savage?

How say I, is that the video only shows him getting out of the vehicle and walking up to the bike. Twenty odd seconds long.

And once again how do you know he isn't complying with SOP's? Maybe not however we hammer the Police on this site for estimating speeds and yet people are guessing that what the cop did was wrong.

For all we know what he did was legit, that is why I ask to be shown his actions were wrong (not talking about the video camera charge, the gun drawn bit)

I fuckn hope that it is not somewhere glearingly obvious, as I haven't bothered to look

[avgas]

I fuckn hope that it is not somewhere glearingly obvious, as I haven't bothered to look

Officers have to announce themselves.
Especially when asking someone to do something.

This is what differentiates them from a criminal.

[jahrasti]

Officers have to announce themselves.
Especially when asking someone to do something.

This is what differentiates them from a criminal.

Yes that is the case here but what about over there?

[Juzz976]

Another good reason not to go to the states, if they bring that here I'll be protesting.

Police have brought public distrust upon themselves, they need to be more aware of the dirty cops albeit a small portion but they are as bad as the scum they sometimes deal with.

The public deserves the right to record an encouter with police to protect themselves from wrongful prosecution, intimidation and bullying.

You would think that the many videos showing police abusing their power would be enough that a stupid law like this would never pass.

[rustyrobot]

How many times have we heard from the police about surveillance "there's no problem if you've got nothing to hide". Well, surely the same applies to them also.

[cs363]

I'd be more concerned if it was the state of Victoria that was dreaming this up...

The Constitution will provide lawyers with ample scope to challenge this... and make a fortune in the process.

X 2 The NZ government (no matter which party is in power) or more to the point the LTSA or NZTA as it is now, have a long history of not being able to think for themselves and mimick virtually every dumbarse traffic law that gets introduced to Victoria.
Agreed regarding the lawyers too

[Max Preload]

How say I, is that the video only shows him getting out of the vehicle and walking up to the bike. Twenty odd seconds long.

You ignore the drawn firearm and failure to immediately identify himself as Police. Don't you watch COPS? Even the uniformed officers identify themselves first and foremost and the only time their weapons are drawn is for a 'felony stop' .

[jahrasti]

You ignore the drawn firearm and failure to immediately identify himself as Police. Don't you watch COPS? Even the uniformed officers identify themselves first and foremost and the only time their weapons are drawn is for a 'felony stop' .

No I don't watch cops You see you are making an assumption on what you have observed. Once againg there are plenty of threads on this site flaming Police for estmating speed. It usually goes along the lines of what the fuck would they know they dont even ride bikes blah blah.

[Max Preload]

No I don't watch cops You see you are making an assumption on what you have observed. Once againg there are plenty of threads on this site flaming Police for estmating speed. It usually goes along the lines of what the fuck would they know they dont even ride bikes blah blah.

Are you saying that the footage on COPS is staged or that they leave the sensational bits out?

There's a big difference between estimating the speed of something approaching on a path almost directly toward you and simply observing the actions of people. Or did the cop not actually draw his weapon if the incident is viewed from another angle?

[Max Preload]

See post #52.
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...41329109.shtml

"This is why we have laws that state how the police are required to immediately identify themselves by words, lights, markings, or badges."

[Crazy Steve]

This is a repost anyway..

Wheres Sniper when you need the REPOST ! ! REPOST ! !

Crazy Steve.

[Max Preload]

This is a repost anyway..

Not really - the charges have just been thrown out.

The idiot State Policeman is lucky he's not dead, getting out an unmarked vehicle without lights or siren, failing to immediately identify himself and drawing a gun on a citizen.