Proposed Road Race rule changes

[CHOPPA]

But yea your right glen, we could just have the superbike rules and people could run whatever spec they can afford. Its not gonna create extra entrys. I had my ex Stroudy bike for sale for $12500 for ages

[KS34]

What he said.

+ I know , lets continue to try and create two race classes out of one thats struggling to fill grids even now..............., hey guys heres an idea. Pick one & get on with it (preferably the cheaper one), Jeeeesh.

I like that idea!

[brads]

I cant see any reason why a distributor supported Australian Team would come to NZ to race as their sole reason for racing is to promote their products to potential customers who are not in NZ as a lot of the distributors are diffrent companys.

Couldnt agree more,few years back now our SBK rules were made so more of us could go and race in aussie, how many went??? 2 for memory, how can making our bikes more expensive to build make it easier to get to Australia?

[lukemillar]

Not being able to change chain pitch is annoying in Stock 600. The main reason I went from 525 -> 520 was availability/choice of sprockets rather than any kind of mechanical advantage!

Not a deal breaker though

[Tony.OK]

Not being able to change chain pitch is annoying in Stock 600. The main reason I went from 525 -> 520 was availability/choice of sprockets rather than any kind of mechanical advantage!

Not a deal breaker though

Yeah that was the only thing I picked out from both Stock classes............520 chain and spockets are also cheaper too.

Good enough reason to pop MNZ an email perhaps.

[Shaun]

e) External gearing and chain, but not chain pitch,


So run 525 chain on 520 sprockets, NO Drama!

[cowpoos]

Not being able to change chain pitch is annoying in Stock 600. The main reason I went from 525 -> 520 was availability/choice of sprockets rather than any kind of mechanical advantage!

Not a deal breaker though

You need to look harder for sprockets. there are plenty out there

[Robert Taylor]

What he said.

+ I know , lets continue to try and create two race classes out of one thats struggling to fill grids even now..............., hey guys heres an idea. Pick one & get on with it (preferably the cheaper one), Jeeeesh.

But will the cheaper one actually be cheaper in practice? ( 600 cc machines ) Anyone who claims to have a totally sorted current spec for revalved and resprung oem 600 shocks for EVERY track is seriously tugging himself.

[Shaun]

But will the cheaper one actually be cheaper in practice? ( 600 cc machines ) Anyone who claims to have a totally sorted current spec for revalved and resprung oem 600 shocks for EVERY track is seriously tugging himself.

But with my test riding skills, we soon will! and this will be a great spin off for the ROAD riders also as well as the buisness in behind it.

[codgyoleracer]

But will the cheaper one actually be cheaper in practice? ( 600 cc machines ) Anyone who claims to have a totally sorted current spec for revalved and resprung oem 600 shocks for EVERY track is seriously tugging himself.

Yes ,l i can see stock shocks on ebay becoming ever rarer !

[Kevin G]

Not being able to change chain pitch is annoying in Stock 600. The main reason I went from 525 -> 520 was availability/choice of sprockets rather than any kind of mechanical advantage!

Not a deal breaker though

Chain pitch is the distance between the centres of the pins or rollers and 530. 525 and 520 are all the same pitch but all are different widths. A misunderstood term. You can change from 525 to 520 as they are written.

[lukemillar]

You need to look harder for sprockets. there are plenty out there

Maybe for the Japanese 600s but I had real hassles finding different sizes for my 675

EDIT - I should add - non stock sizes

[lukemillar]

Chain pitch is the distance between the centres of the pins or rollers and 530. 525 and 520 are all the same pitch but all are different widths. A misunderstood term. You can change from 525 to 520 as they are written.

You know, I never knew that! I always though pitch was the distance between rollers.

Cool - ignore me then and carry on!

[scorry]

the only thing i dont like is having to have a vin plate for super stock's per 3.1

a) Be fitted with V.I.N compliance plates for the particular machine,

that way you cant import a slightly bent 600 from the states, fix it and race it for well under $10k
that was what i was thinking of doing next year

surely if it fits the following, that should be enough??

b) Be of a make and model lawfully sold in New Zealand
c) Be as constructed by the manufacturer,
d) At least 10 production machines of that make and model must have been imported
into New Zealand by the manufacturer or the Australian distributor representing the
manufacturer.

[slowpoke]

Yeah, you're right Chris but realistically most folks wouldn't know what to do with or how to take advantage of half that malarkey. As you and a lot of other experienced guys have said, most of us need to spend more time learning how to ride the things than tinkering with 'em. On the upside of those modified rules, young blokes like Nick Cole, Glen Skatchill, Jimmy Smith, Choppa will actually have some exposure to some of the equipment/adjustability they'll face overseas.

You don't have to front with the mag adjustable triple clamps, BST wheels, Stack dash, Marelli D/A etc. But all of a sudden it's worth Choppa, Nick Cole, Jimmy Smith, Craig Shirriffs, Stroudy etc hunting up sponsors with interests in Oz 'cos they can more than double their exposure. Yeah, I may be dreamin'......but it's nice while it lasts, lol.

At a quick look a Superbike built to the limit of the rules just got a large amount dearer!!

Wheels 3x rear 2x front $5000-10,000
Adjustable tripple clamps $2000-5000
Brake Master Cylinder $500 (dont ask what a motogp one costs!!)
Dash $500-$5000
Data Aquaisiton $2000-20,000
Ecu $2000-WSB Marelli marvell system is $100000 US$
Motec at least $10,000
Aux Radiator $500-???.

I just wonder if there is a surreptitious movement to price S/bike out of the market and replace it with s/stock when there are only 3 bikes entered??