There have been cases where a robber has ended up grievously wounding or killing people during a robbery, despite having no intent to kill. I have no issue with bona fide robbers ceasing to exist.Originally Posted by bogan
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There have been cases where a robber has ended up grievously wounding or killing people during a robbery, despite having no intent to kill. I have no issue with bona fide robbers ceasing to exist.
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Hardcore Biker
Yeah, fair enough in that case then, killing him would be a bit extreme I guess...maybe just cut a leg off
Edit: Although if the robber pulled a knife on shop owner, and the shop owner then shot the robber...good on the shop keeper, but shooting / stabbing someone in the back as they run away is just poor sport.
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how many of those were caused by the robber being cornered though? Not saying people should just bend over and take it, but gotta know when to fold em.
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They call me Mr Fahrenheit
My advice to you if you pull out a samurai sword:
1. Know how to use it effectively
2. Be prepared to use it effectively
If you can't do both of those things you really are asking for trouble. If you really can do both of those things, then you probably don't need the sword anyway.
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Double shot!!
Like any industry, they are about perpetuating it. Police morale is much higher when they have "interesting work" to do, so don't think it is going to end any time soon. Any support industry should be working towards putting themselves out of business, but that's not going to happen, as there's too much money in it, and they are having too much fun.
Steve
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The instructions are simple...
Someone will no doubt correct me, but my understanding of the law is that for a case of self defence to be valid, one must not wield a greater force than one's attacker is wielding against one.
This is of course a crock of shit. One defends (or not) using whatever is to hand at the time.
Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?
Hardcore Biker
Crap fight till the end, fuck just letting some prick walk over top of your life, if what you have got is not enough get a bigger one...A lot over the years have died doing just nothing, they folded at the wrong time, then again none of us know when to fold but if we do then it is just a case of hope I suppose..
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Double shot!!
Well ya pays ya money and ya rolls ya dice.
Steve
"I am a licenced motorcycle instructor, I agree with dangerousbastard, no point in repeating what he said."
"read what Steve says. He's right."
"What Steve said pretty much summed it up."
"I did axactly as you said and it worked...!!"
"Wow, Great advise there DB."
WTB: Hyosung bikes or going or not.
Hardcore Biker
Quote from link
"For example, if someone was attacking me with a knife or a gun, I would likely be justified in using deadly force to repel the attack."
I'm sure I remember cases were the police have prosecuted someone for doing just that...
What one man deems resonable, another wont.
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Was listening to a story at chrimbo in the UK where a family, returning from their mosque, entered their house to be confronted by 3 masked men... they were then tied up and had their lives threatened... one of the kids escaped and went to get another family member who turned up with a cricket bat and chased them out of the house... at that point they headed out and caught one of the robbers... 2 ended up in jail... the crim, "Although Salem was the only intruder caught after the incident, his injuries meant he was not fit to plead after being charged with false imprisonment. He was given a two-year supervision order at a court hearing in September."... was justice served? Perhaps, although I reckon the sentence of the 2 "victims" should have been suspended...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/de...ar-cricket-bat
I think if anyone comes on to your property uninvited and threatens to kill you, that you're well within your rights to render them imobile at any costs... equal attitude met with equal attitude equals self-defence in my eyes...
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Forum whore
No, they're in the business of dealing with the nasty side of human nature... in other words they're in one of the only business' where they will never ever have to work to provide themselves with more customers. There's a list of cases to be solved in this country as long as your arm, they definitely don't need more crims, if anything they need more detectives. Hell just for the quantity of detectives in this country to go from our current 'understaffed' to 'barely adequate' would require a major reduction in crime.
Behold Babel's Tower
Personally, I dont believe in fairness in self defense. If they have a gun and I dont, I will be Mr Submissive and hope ther're partially human. If they have a knife, and I get to my sword, they're fucked if I get close enough. Equally, if someone comes at me with any intent to do harm, I take the situation that they have the capability to kill and will do my best to obliterate them with whatever means available. There is no such thing as fairness in such a fight, and someone telling me fairness is involved in self defense nowadays can bite me.
This is the biggest bug up my arse at present...but I'll save it for another thread
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They call me Mr Fahrenheit
If you seek a fair fight then you must be prepared to lose at least half of the time. If your opponent(s) do not fight fair then your chances of losing are far greater.
If it is a matter of life and death, then it is not sport. Seek to end it as quickly as possible.
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Grumpy Old Bastard
Any little fucker poking a knife at me I will maim with my piece of steel pipe - if I possibly can. And fuck the consequences - I got nothin' to lose at my time of life and in my state of health...go out with a bang, not a whimper. Hell yeah...
Well, I'd like to think so, anyway...
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