Min of Ed want every high school student to have a cell phone at school

[PrincessBandit]

Yeah, but they can still add it wrong. If they don't understand how to add, why then would you trust them to add it with a calculator. But I do agree, double checking in that respect is a good idea.

What makes me laugh is the situation where, in a shop for example, the thing is rung up on a till incorrectly but they accept the answer because that's what the machine tells them. You, as the old fogey, are able to point out to them that it's incorrect (you did the equation in your head, even if it was only an approximation). They're astounded when the answer you gave them magically comes up when they operate the machine correctly this time!

[crazyhorse]

Just pray they don't come across a problem long enough to warrant BEDMAS.
Looks like now is the time to take out a degree in accounting.

Accounting doesn't teach someone how to add - teaches bookwork and balancing of accounts and what you can screw the tax department for

[crazyhorse]

What makes me laugh is the situation where, in a shop for example, the thing is rung up on a till incorrectly but they accept the answer because that's what the machine tells them. You, as the old fogey, are able to point out to them that it's incorrect (you did the equation in your head, even if it was only an approximation). They're astounded when the answer you gave them magically comes up when they operate the machine correctly this time!

ANd they also rely on the till to work out how much change they need to give back. They don't even know how to count the change back the old fashioned way

[FJRider]

What makes me laugh is the situation where ...

Or when they are using an older style till (or in a power cut so the till doesn't work) and they can't give change because they can't work out how much to give ...

[MsKABC]

Banning cell phones is unrealistic, unreasonable, and not enforceable. It's hard enough stopping them from using them in the classroom, let alone the playground. There are enough things for teachers to have to worry about today (like declining standards of behaviour), without giving them another thing to police.

[Neshi]

ANd they also rely on the till to work out how much change they need to give back. They don't even know how to count the change back the old fashioned way

that was what astounded me when I came here and bought my first things in the store.. Nobody counts the change back, they just chuck it in your hands and there you go :O
In holland the ones working the till were required to count back (as a safety measure for yourself for not giving too much change accidentaly as well) , if you couldn't do it you had to learn it.. fast.


Can't wrap my head around the fact the bullied boy in the opening post didn't just change his phonenumber if he was having that much grief with the texts he was getting.. be more careful who you give your number to..

[Babelfish]

The woman who's kid was text bullied to death is just another mourning parent who needs to shut the fuck up and mourn without thinking the country wants to hear her bleating. Dont get me wrong, bullying is fucked, but its never changed and the ignorance of the bitch in terms of technology always makes me pity her more.

The only thing I pity more than her ignorance is the ignorance of turning around and making cellphones compulsory in school. Oh dear god I can imagine the look of faux innovation in everyone's face when that came up in a min edu meeting. Not one of them would have completely grasped the enormity of implementing that.

I think they should stick to fucking up what they currently do (going by recent reports) before jumping into the complexities of personal devices for each student.

[crazyhorse]

that was what astounded me when I came here and bought my first things in the store.. Nobody counts the change back, they just chuck it in your hands and there you go :O
In holland the ones working the till were required to count back (as a safety measure for yourself for not giving too much change accidentaly as well) , if you couldn't do it you had to learn it.. fast.

My Mum was dutch and her multiplication and division astounded me. That is somethiing that I'll never forget about her and I agree, kids just don't count back properly or at all

[Babelfish]

The other thing to note here is that most people have attached the cell phones in schools to mathmatical implications. Of more worry will be gramatical, as we've already turfed so many words in favour of txt speak.

[Headbanger]

The other thing to note here is that most people have attached the cell phones in schools to mathmatical implications. Of more worry will be gramatical, as we've already turfed so many words in favour of txt speak.

Yeah, because as a language evolves (and they all evolve or die) then the planet runs out of oxygen.

People will use what works best, why shouldn't they?

Because the new way is different from the old way?

Oh the horror of realising you're not important in the great scheme of things.

[Babelfish]

Yeah, because as a language evolves (and they all evolve or die) then the planet runs out of oxygen.

People will use what works best, why shouldn't they?

Because the new way is different from the old way?

Oh the horror of realising you're not important in the great scheme of things.

0 yeh u r rite, i wll rmber tht n 4 nxt time

[rie]

Basically, schools have no right to demand parents to provide things for their kids that is unrelated to the curriculum. I don't see what cellphones have to do with any aspect of the school's business of schooling.

[Neshi]

indeed.. it just provides extra costs for parents and the wealth gap will become only larger.. as kids with expensive cellphones looking down on / bullying the ones with less expensive ones..

[imdying]

People will use what works best, why shouldn't they?

Because it doesn't work best.

[Headbanger]

Because it doesn't work best.

Obviously for that group and for what they are using it for, It best suits their purposes.

To say otherwise just puts you in a different group, and who are you to tell them it doesn't suit them or their use?