Min of Ed want every high school student to have a cell phone at school

[Babelfish]

indeed.. it just provides extra costs for parents and the wealth gap will become only larger.. as kids with expensive cellphones looking down on / bullying the ones with less expensive ones..

This is what I meant about the enormity of implenting cellphones to all kids. Technical considerations, school logistics, parental impacts...no small fete. I dont hold any hope on this having been in any way covered off within a feasability study before they shot off their mouth.

Just today one of my team had their daughter text them from within a class to get the answer to a test.

[imdying]

Obviously for that group and for what they are using it for, It best suits their purposes.

I agree with that, for their group it's all good. But he was talking about the implications of encouraging the use of txtish by cell phones being used in schools, which will then carry into the workplace where it will be of no use... not that they'll know because they will lack the communication skills required to get a job.

[The Pastor]

what benefit do cellphones add to the classroom? I can't see any. I can only see negatives to having cellphones compulsory in school.

[Headbanger]

I agree with that, for their group it's all good. But he was talking about the implications of encouraging the use of txtish by cell phones being used in schools, which will then carry into the workplace where it will be of no use... not that they'll know because they will lack the communication skills required to get a job.

Is that really the case though? That we have produced or are producing an entire generation of extremely stupid kids, unable to not only add but understand the concept, unable to spell,unable to communicate to the level even to get employment?

I call bullshit, There have always been a percentage of stupid bastards, a percentage of gifted twats, and everyone else sits somewhere in the middle.

The Government have claimed that the level of education is higher then it has ever been in the past, Sure they also talk shit but I haven't seen any credible attack on that claim.

That aside, My boy has been at school for a year, He can read at the level he is expected to, he understands the concept of addition and suntraction and can do it at the expected level.

Getting a cell phone isn't going top alter his education for better or for worse, Not that he is getting one any time soon.


And I expect the staff in most shops to be stupid, thats who those jobs are for.

[imdying]

You can't even manage to work out where to use a capital letter, so I'm not putting a lot of faith in your assessment of your boy.

[Headbanger]

You can't even manage to work out where to use a capital letter, so I'm not putting a lot of faith in your assessment of your boy.

Poor criteria to base your conclusion on, especially as that wasn't the point of my post. Though it does demonstrate the weakness of your position.

[imdying]

No, it shows how little faith I have in getting intelligent debate on communication from somebody who is so demonstratively terrible at it.

You're looking for evidence when we haven't even had a generation of people brought up on txtish to get a result set from. But gee, there's no firm evidence of it being a problem yet, so why bother doing anything now... let's ignore the anecdotal evidence and wait for it to become a problem, much better idea

[Headbanger]

No, it shows how little faith I have in getting intelligent debate on communication from somebody who is so demonstratively terrible at it.

Saves you from actually contesting anything put forward then aye?

Is that really the best you have?

You been shown to have nothing so you bring up something petty, unrelated, pointless, and then claim you're above it.

LMFAO. Piss weak.

Its just another case where insecure people put themselves on a pedestal and then try and ridicule others by picking up on petty diiferences to justify their delusions, The youngsters and their use of txt is an easy target for these weak minded people.

If all someone has to make themselves superiour is being a spelling pendant or making an issue about counting back change then its pretty laughable and pathetic. Even more so when they use this unjustified position to condemn an entire generation.

[imdying]

Ah huh, and when did I've never seen any problems become a valid rebuttal? Oh wait, you've seen a 5 year old that you think is doing alright, all must be well for the literacy standards in NZ

[Headbanger]

Ah huh, and when did I've never seen any problems become a valid rebuttal? Oh wait, you've seen a 5 year old that you think is doing alright, all must be well for the literacy standards in NZ

Nah, we're done. You lose.

[imdying]

Nah, we're done. You lose.

Hypocrite

[Smifffy]

Nah, we're done. You lose.

Everybody loses. But that's ok, cos we all win and nobody fails.

[Babelfish]

Kids already use a large amount of technology in schools (some schools) with micro pc's becoming more prevelant. Sure a kid needs to understand using everyday technology in life, but I guess it will come down to how the technology works within the curriculum. Given this is a fresh approach, will this mean a fresh approach to the curriculum? And what is wrong with the current use of cell phones that they need to make such a change?

Headbanger, it's too easy to throw off the old "different things for different groups" approach but this guy (min ed) is talking about it being compulsory in ALL schools. In reality the effort required to implement this would be far beyone the competency of the govt dept in question (dont get me started on their attempt at learning assessments), but they have decided to come out with fancy talk and deserve to be flamed.

I look forward to schools adding a cell phone cost to my fees and expecting me to roll on it. This said, I'll make sure my kids are well aware of the technology and how to use it to best effect before they're starting to use them.

[Headbanger]

Headbanger, it's too easy to throw off the old "different things for different groups" approach but this guy (min ed) is talking about it being compulsory in ALL schools.

Yeah, Its a fucktard idea, thats why I was ignoring it.

[Smifffy]

Yeah, Its a fucktard idea, thats why I was ignoring it.

By the time the fuckwits in the min of ed can come up with a curriculum relevant to digital technology, the technology will have changed, and the kids will already be ahead of the men from the ministry.

Education is too imoportant to allow it to be run by academics.