Organising an Endurance event - fuck off if you're going throw stones...

[dave o]

im down like a clown charlie brown

[Katman]

My concern about an all-comers free-for-all would be the massive top speed differentials you'd find between bikes.

[TOTO]

Keen


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[R6_kid:Me]

I'd be keen for sure.

[Gremlin]

yeah, katman does have a point there. Having bikes (circuit dependent, basically the straights) with big speed differentials definitely increases the risk, as we've sadly seen it before.

[Katman]

yeah, katman does have a point there. Having bikes (circuit dependent, basically the straights) with big speed differentials definitely increases the risk, as we've sadly seen it before.

And combine that with a big skill differential............

[schrodingers cat]

And combine that with a big skill differential............

Careful - you nearly threw a pebble there.

Its a fact of life. I just don't think anyone would be interested in reducing the risk and playing 5 hours of PS3 MotoGP (just like the real thing)

[vtec]

Awesome idea, there's an endurance race that the BADD people do at the end of the year usually. I'm a gun for hire if someone wants a good team mate. Only doing summer racing these days for money reasons.

[dave o]

could have smaller/slower bikes in an enduro during the day (say 1pm to 6pm or something?) then the bigger/faster bikes from 7 to 12 or whatever you wanted.

[cowpoos]

Realistically it needs around 60 entrants to make if financially viable.

Great Idea...

I'm not sure you will be allowed 60 bikes on a tack at the same time. possibly 35.

[Gubb]

Great Idea...

I'm not sure you will be allowed 60 bikes on a tack at the same time. possibly 35.

60 Entrants with teams of 3 to 4 is only 20ish bikes on the Track. (I assume this is what MBB is thinking.)

I'd certainly be interested in putting together a team on a bodged 80's 400.

[scracha]

60 Entrants with teams of 3 to 4 is only 20ish bikes on the Track. (I assume this is what MBB is thinking.)

I'd certainly be interested in putting together a team on a bodged 80's 400.

I'm keen, but can we make it that entrants must have 3 recent entries in their log books?

And 5 hours....c'mon. 24 hours. I want bonfires, strippers and fireworks.

[Foxzee]

Would this be run as a MNZ permitted event?

[madbikeboy]

So, here are some more details –

The event needs to be run in accordance with "reasonably" normal rules, so I’m putting a proposal to the motorcycle club that I belong to in order for them to run the event. The race committee meets next week to hear my proposal, so we’ll find out pretty soon if it’s doable.

Okay, 60 bikes – no, I’m meaning 60 bikes on the track – I’m working with the racetrack to determine the maximum number of people allowed on the track at any given time. More news to follow on this – however, the intention is for a large scale event for a number of reasons – the first is that with more people involved, the event will become more affordable – the afterparty will be better as well. The second reason is for obvious critical mass for sponsorship etc. The third reason is that a large event will be more inclusive and interesting for wider families. There is the possibility of having other events on the property at the time, for example Paintball, a 4wd course, archery, clay pigeon shooting. Think carnival atmosphere. There is accommodation onsite. I’m trying to see if we can organise a band of some sort, and a comedian isn’t out of the question either. The underlying intention here is to have fun, to include our wider support groups in the fun (and make it a good experience for everyone).

Budget for running an endurance bike. Ignoring the cost of actually acquiring the bike – I’d budget for my own bike (GSXR600) a couple sets of tires, and fuel (lots of it). I wonder if we can get a tire deal, anyone know any friendly people over at Pirelli or Metzler? It’s an endurance event, some people will treat it like a series of sprint races, others (my team included) will be viewing it as a hare and tortuous event (meaning consistent and conserving the bike).

V-Tec – you’re already pencilled in for my team, along with ZXRider (sorry Lance).

The sunset issue is still a problem – sunstrike may call for a 30 / 45 minute break in the middle of the event (Frosty, minds thinking alike). Logistically, this is a pain in the ass – and the main issue will be ensuring the staggered start accurately reflects the times of the staggered finish.

From my proposal, there will be awards (meaning $5 trophies) for the top 3 teams in each class, a peoples award for the best bike, an award from me for sportsmanship of the day award, and also an award for the Lantern Rouge – the slowest finishing team.

As for bikes – again, the classes are going to be very loose, this is intentional to make it interesting. I want to see creativity and interesting solutions for the bikes run. It will be mindlessly boring if we end up with a field of GSXR's. There will be some who will be as serious as cancer about running – hence us offering no prize purse, only glory. Sportsmanship and enjoying the event should be the key motivation. Since it's my baby, the trophies will be "interesting...".

Finally, the most logical suggestion about skill levels and bikes is to provide a 150% ruling – that is, to qualify for the event, you can be no more than 150% of the fastest bike’s time. Clearly, that is still a massive speed differential, so common sense will need to prevail. All people running will need to have attended a track day at the course, and a day licence type system is envisioned. This is possibly the most complex part of the proposal, so any suggestions on how to make this work will be appreciated.

This prosposal has immense goodwill from everyone involved thus far – the people at the track have been incredible flexible and supportive, and with momentum and support this will happen.

[javawocky]

At the very least would go along to watch.

No stones just a possible suggestion to deal with speed differentials. Perhaps having a fast lane / slow lane down the straights? "You fast boys on GSXRs stick to the right hand side, and you slow pokes on Hondas down the left."