Labour troffers - underpants, golf clubs, wine and private planes - all on our money.

[Tank]

Credit card spending gets announced today.

Interesting some are coming out first for damage limitation. I think this is going to be really interesting reading.

For the lefties - lets keep this on subject and only cover the troffing expenses that get announced.

So what do we have so far - confirmed outside spending and having to pay back:

Shane Jones $6000:
Hiring a plane
movie rentals (Porn??)
Personal Magazines
expensive wine for personal use

Another Labour Minister has been asked to pay back the cost of a massage on the credit card

At least two former ministers are understood to have bought new wardrobes while overseas, including a suit, shirts and boxer shorts in one case.

Mita Ririnui confirmed he bought a $600 set of golf clubs while in Australia on his ministerial credit card. (edit - he did pay back when he got back to NZ - but we shouldnt be paying for it in the first place)


Its going to be a fun couple of days with this stuff coming out. I find it terrible that they only offer to pay back once it makes the media. What kind of ship were those fuckers running?

[Mudfart]

a very loose ship that requires sinking, lets torp the fucker, and put those corrupt, ripoff no-goods to rest.
Once again I call for legislation that states if you disgrace your ministerial position you get the fuck out of politics. Not swap portfolios.
And the public stone you to death, incase I forgot that part.

[Tank]

First Nat - Climate Change Negotiations Minister Tim Groser racked up a $641 minibar bill in the space of one week during the Copenhagen climate change conference.

In the meantime. Carter (Labour) buys flowers for his husbands birthday and watches a $25 pay per view movie on the taxpayer. Im guessing that wasnt a pixar film at that amount of money.

[Mully]

What's "troffing"? - D'ya mean "troughing"? As in "pigs at the trough"?

I think you'll find when Phil Heatley (sp?) was sacked, I predicted that Labour wouldn't make a fuss because they knew they were just as at fault, and it would bite them in the arse.

It's pretty naive to think they aren't all the same, given the chance. Anyone remember Tuku Morgan buying $90-odd undies with public funds?

I think all of them - Ministers, MPs and thei staff - should have these records available for perusal at any time. It'd certainly tighten up the "Oh, I didn't know I wasn't allowed to buy that - I'll pay it back" thing.

[Tank]

spelling - yeah ok.

Yep - you did predict that !

Still - what are the odds of any of the labour pigs (trough - geddit) offering themselves yup to the AG and being stood down like National did?

[BoristheBiter]

they should have it like everyone else.
Pay for it first then get reinbursed, this would stop it.

[rainman]

Its going to be a fun couple of days with this stuff coming out. I find it terrible that they only offer to pay back once it makes the media.

Have to disagree, it will be the usual boring circlejerk that passes for political analysis around here.

Rorting, whether expenses or allowances or kickback or conflicts of interest, is bad, whoever does it. Does anyone actually disagree with this? Even the guys doing the rorting?
That there is almost no-one in parliament that is not vulnerable to this sort of criticism says something.

Once again I call for legislation that states if you disgrace your ministerial position you get the fuck out of politics. Not swap portfolios.

Works for me - but the problem is you would quickly run out of pollies, and there would be few willing to put their hands up to follow in behind those departing. I would never stand for political office in NZ - I'm a fairly principled and well-behaved lad but I'm certain there are enough skeletons in my cupboard that some bugger would crucify me over. Not worth it.

Of course, I would have to say that the one party that has had less controversy than the others would be the Greens. Not perfect by any means, but better than Nat/Lab/Act/NZ1 and to a lesser degree Prog/UF/... So there's a solution for you

[imdying]

They will all steal from their fellow New Zealanders if given half a chance. They only bother having different parties to keep you idiots arguing amongst yourselves.

[JimO]

Have to disagree, it will be the usual boring circlejerk that passes for political analysis around here.

Rorting, whether expenses or allowances or kickback or conflicts of interest, is bad, whoever does it. Does anyone actually disagree with this? Even the guys doing the rorting?
That there is almost no-one in parliament that is not vulnerable to this sort of criticism says something.



Works for me - but the problem is you would quickly run out of pollies, and there would be few willing to put their hands up to follow in behind those departing. I would never stand for political office in NZ - I'm a fairly principled and well-behaved lad but I'm certain there are enough skeletons in my cupboard that some bugger would crucify me over. Not worth it.

Of course, I would have to say that the one party that has had less controversy than the others would be the Greens. Not perfect by any means, but better than Nat/Lab/Act/NZ1 and to a lesser degree Prog/UF/... So there's a solution for you

thats a surprise your a fuckin greenie

[wysper]

They only bother having different parties to keep you idiots arguing amongst yourselves.

I happen to like arguing!

[mashman]

They will all steal from their fellow New Zealanders if given half a chance. They only bother having different parties to keep you idiots arguing amongst yourselves.

Says it all really... t'would be nice if we could jail a few...

[rainman]

thats a surprise your a fuckin greenie

Well yeah duh. For good reason, as you can see. They're not perfect but are the most principled of a bad lot.

[imdying]

Says it all really... t'would be nice if we could jail a few...

Psssh, you might as well lockup most of the country then, they'd all do it too given half a chance.

[imdying]

They're not perfect but are the most principled of a bad lot.

Whatever.... even Graham Capil had principles.... they'll get caught selling out (again) soon enough.

[SPman]

Whatever.... even Graham Capil had principles.... they'll get caught selling out (again) soon enough.

I like a man who has principles.....and I'm prepared to pay for them!