Draggins kevlar longjohns now available in NZ

[Quasievil]

If you come off in draggins, you can get gravel rash through the jeans, same with cordura and leather. You can get abrasion and bruising etc through the gear. They are not magical barriers that stop everything.

Far Far less rash will occur with leathers, as they are tighter fitting garments than jeans and or cordura, also as they are thicker which reduces transfer of heat

The idea of the long johns is to keep you warm and if you come off to stop contact with the road and thus preventing it from taking your skin off. No it will not stop all road rash but will greatly minimise the harm done by the road.

Why not buy a windstop or a polyprope garment for under real gear for warmth ("real" said in gest;-) so settle people)
It wont do a lot as it has no armour in it, what happens when you hit the deck and bounce, no armour means pain and damage to the bones, again, its the wrong gear to be wearing on a motorcycle[/QUOTE]

Its not a magical barrier but better than nothing and is a hell of a lot easier to live with than leather pants to work everyday.

Not being rude or having a go at you mate, but that is the complacency that gets biker injured.
Kevlar underpants wont do bugger all, you have to take your pants of to get them on and take them off again for your working day, why not just wear the right gear, i.e not underpants made from kevlar (eeeek the thought of it)

Practicality wise, I think they are great and fail to see how people fail to see their useability. They are not leather pants and dont try to be.

So what is their actual strength and what is the main focus for this product other than adding a little more "feel good factor" when suiting up for a ride.

good dscussion tho !!

[rie]

So what is their actual strength and what is the main focus for this product other than adding a little more "feel good factor" when suiting up for a ride.

I don't get the point of the debate: they are not trying to be leathers. Nor do they claim to provide any superior protection to leathers or textiles. They are just one of the offerings in the draggins range.

Their touted strength is simply that instead of forking out for lots of pairs of kevlar jeans (for those who wear kevlar jeans in the first place) you have one pair of longjohns to go underneath anything.

[oracle]

I don't get the point of the debate: they are not trying to be leathers. Nor do they claim to provide any superior protection to leathers or textiles. They are just one of the offerings in the draggins range.

Their touted strength is simply that instead of forking out for lots of pairs of kevlar jeans (for those who wear kevlar jeans in the first place) you have one pair of longjohns to go underneath anything.

Finally, someone who seems to understand the idea behind these! Not as an equivalent to leathers or even standard cordura pants, but for someone who isn't willing to wear obvious motorcycle gear but would still like some protection

[ital916]

Finally, someone who seems to understand the idea behind these! Not as an equivalent to leathers or even standard cordura pants, but for someone who isn't willing to wear obvious motorcycle gear but would still like some protection

t'was what I was saying....sigh.

[oracle]

t'was what I was saying....sigh.

Sorry ital916, was a generalisation and obviously overlooked your post(s)

[CookMySock]

Ya wouldnt want to come off and get a strand of that kevlar around ya nut.

Steve

[Blinkwing]

Ya wouldnt want to come off and get a strand of that kevlar around ya nut.

Steve

Unless you wanted a free vasectomy ..

[rapid van cleef]

250 bucks for kevlar long johns! for fucks sake. id rather wear 2 pairs of thermal pants and me leathers if i wanna stay warm, which i have done, and it works fine n dandy. used to ride through the winter in uk. lots of layers, but warm and safe.......as safe as you can be on a bike

[flyingcrocodile46]

Yes I read the thread and saw the views expressed. No it ain't leather or cordura and no it doesn't have any impact protection. Yes it is likely to slide up out of the way and expose bare skin, so it has little protective value. Yes it is intended only for riders who want the most minimal protection so is better than nothing (if that is the only alternative that they can imagine).

IMO it rates 1 out of 10 for protection at best (if that is what you are buying it for) so is worth 10% what you would pay for proper protective gear, (which arguably ranges from $500 to $1500). If it's more than $100 it is poor value for money.

Personally I wouldn't wear them for free (unless for warmth under proper gear).

[imdying]

You're clearly doing it wrong if you're crashing that often.

That's the point though, once and it's fucked.

[jasonzc]

That's the point though, once and it's fucked.

i thought it was designed that way and therefore its 'itended use'? i might be wrong..

but i know that my coudura stuff is gonna last me one off im most likely gonna replace if i crash.

Hopefuly that wont happen..

But no doubt... leather is king

[ynot slow]

Every add for draggin jeans shows a guy being towed behind a bike,sure they maybe good in a slide,but the impact when the body lands is what hurts,sure if sliding kevlar helps,but rarely see moto riders in kevlar do we.Yep this summer I may grab a pair of kevlar jeans with armour added(not the pocketed armour but aftermarket) for short rides,but mostly leather on rides of more than 20km distance.

[Ladydragon]

Went to MotorMail last Friday they are only selling the kevlar long johns but they weren't $250 the ones that they are selling at the moment cost $315

[Vinz0r]

I think that the pricing on the Draggin site said $250 AUD, which works out to be around $315 NZD

[McDuck]

I seem to be intreged with the mental picture of a hot chick riding a motorbike wearing a skirt.... can anybody provide pics?