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    Calling computer experts.

    Noticing lately that Windows Live Mail is downloading a shit of emails from the Hotmail Postmaster saying these emails ccouldn't be sent. Now I didn't send these in the first place and the address's they're being sent to are random.

    Now I suspect that my computer might be hacked or some bloody virus but at the moment my Virus program doesn't pick up anything. I use NOD32

    Anyone know a way to fix this?
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    It's Spam. Ignore it.
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    Define shit loads? Also are these unable to be sent emails claiming to come from your own email address?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elysium View Post
    Noticing lately that Windows Live Mail is downloading a shit of emails from the Hotmail Postmaster saying these emails ccouldn't be sent. Now I didn't send these in the first place and the address's they're being sent to are random.

    Now I suspect that my computer might be hacked or some bloody virus but at the moment my Virus program doesn't pick up anything. I use NOD32

    Anyone know a way to fix this?
    I had the same thing during the week. Received some postmaster failures and several emails from concerned friends... Running MSE and it didn't pick up a thing. Changed my email password instead... about all i could do really.
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    This sounds like someone is sending spam using your email address to "legitimise" it. But since they are hitting a lot of fake addresses the mail servers are responding saying "no such address" or similar. And since they are using your email address, it all gets returned to your inbox.

    SO you don't have a virus, just somone has gotten your email address somewhere (maybe off a forum like here, or you've signed up to some site that's not 100% above board).

    Pretty much nothing you can do about it now.
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    Someone who has you in their addressbook has a virus. Any service or product with the words "msn" or "windows" in it is heavily targetted by virus writers.


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    If the email appears to have come from you, the most likely scenario is that someone is using your email address to send emails (and this can be done without logging into your emails as you).

    As said, pretty much nothing can be done, unless you change your email address.
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    Someone has cloned your email address to send out spam. When their message is hitting a non existant email address, the legitimate email account holder (you) is getting the bounce message. To be sure that your email account hasn't been hacked then check your sent box for stuff that you didn't send. I'm 99% sure that they haven't hacked your email though.

    Theres shit you can do about it. If you do have email you don't recognise in your sent box then simply change your password. I own an IT company, I've seen this from time to time.
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    The spammers know the hardest bit is to get YOU to open spam. So they send you a "bounce" message. And you open it to see what bounced. Plus, you spam filter will not usually be set up to send bounce messages to the spam folder. Job Done for the spammer.
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    What type of email address do you have - hotmail, gmail, yahoo, XTRA? Have you logged onto a free or cafe wireless recently? Change your password to be safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insanity_rules View Post
    Someone has cloned your email address to send out spam. When their message is hitting a non existant email address, the legitimate email account holder (you) is getting the bounce message. To be sure that your email account hasn't been hacked then check your sent box for stuff that you didn't send. I'm 99% sure that they haven't hacked your email though.

    Theres shit you can do about it. If you do have email you don't recognise in your sent box then simply change your password. I own an IT company, I've seen this from time to time.
    What do you mean, cloned? I can send mail from JK if I really wanted to (spoofing), it just won't come from his account and like you say he'll get failed messages returned to his email... I was more concerned that my account had been hacked, because the emails were sent to friends, family and businesses... for me it's odd because I don't maintain a contacts list, which means that my account has, at least, been scraped for email addresses... even more of a concern would be that someone hacked my email account and downloaded the contents of one or more folders... the downside is I'll never know what's been taken and will just have to wait til some fuckwit tries it again or clears my bank account out...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    [..] it's odd because I don't maintain a contacts list, which means that my account has, at least, been scraped for email addresses...
    Either that, or someone else close to you with a similar set of contacts does maintain a contact list, and they got raided.

    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    even more of a concern would be that someone hacked my email account and downloaded the contents of one or more folders... the downside is I'll never know what's been taken and will just have to wait til some fuckwit tries it again or clears my bank account out...
    Yup.

    Almost all mainstream products are vulnerable. Basically it's just a matter of time until you get done, unless you can maintain a 99% up-to-date status with the latest cutting-edge tools, and that aint gunna be cheap.

    Alternatively, stop using mainstream products.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    Almost all mainstream products are vulnerable. Basically it's just a matter of time until you get done, unless you can maintain a 99% up-to-date status with the latest cutting-edge tools, and that aint gunna be cheap.
    Thank fuck you dont work in IT. Millions and Millions of other (normal) people manage to keep their machines up-to-date and never have an issue. You dont need cutting edge tools, and it dosnt need to be expensive.

    I know you are a one trick Linux pony - but at least TRY a little to be accurate huh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tank View Post
    Thank fuck you dont work in IT. Millions and Millions of other (normal) people manage to keep their machines up-to-date and never have an issue. You dont need cutting edge tools, and it dosnt need to be expensive.

    I know you are a one trick Linux pony - but at least TRY a little to be accurate huh.
    More rudeness and intentionally derogatory remarks from you. Thank fuck you don't breed more regularly - hateful, pointed, and targetting remarks, designed to be putdowns such as yours would just be the business to bring up little assholes who would penalise the rest of society for ever. Keep up the good work.

    Funny how you are nice as pie when you have had a shit day, and times other than that you are a complete mongrel.

    Steve
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    "Wow, Great advise there DB."
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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    More rudeness and intentionally derogatory remarks from you. Thank fuck you don't breed more regularly - hateful, pointed, and targetting remarks, designed to be putdowns such as yours would just be the business to bring up little assholes who would penalise the rest of society for ever. Keep up the good work.

    Funny how you are nice as pie when you have had a shit day, and times other than that you are a complete mongrel.

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