Jail smoking ban: Quitting help needed

[Bald Eagle]

Prisoners would have access to quitting programmes, he said.

Yet another potential example of the 'offenders' getting better treatment than the public. we have to pay for our quiting programmes.

[Devil]

While I sympathise with your point, I think this is a fantastic opportunity to 'Break the cycle' as it were.

edit: That makes me sound like a smoker or ex smoker. I am not.

[p.dath]

Prisoners would have access to quitting programmes, he said.

Yet another potential example of the 'offenders' getting better treatment than the public. we have to pay for our quiting programmes.

I know someone who did a quitting programme recently, and the entire thing was Government funded - even the patches.

[Scuba_Steve]

They just need to use the "Bob & Steve" method of addiction stopping... A bullet to the crotch, it cures almost any addiction.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CWZOj2lWWw#t=1m59s

[Mully]

I know someone who did a quitting programme recently, and the entire thing was Government funded - even the patches.

+1 me too.

Given the amount chucked into prisons, I can't see any harm in throwing a bit more to get them to stop smoking. It's the same reason I support dole recipients getting encouragement to quit too.

[CookMySock]

Good business for the guards in single cigarette sales!

Steve

[oldrider]

prisoners would have access to quitting programmes, he said.

Yet another potential example of the 'offenders' getting better treatment than the public. We have to pay for our quiting programmes.

"and theirs"

[The Pastor]

Prisoners would have access to quitting programmes, he said.

Yet another potential example of the 'offenders' getting better treatment than the public. we have to pay for our quiting programmes.

We will put you in the room full of hard men who have had their smokes taken away for a week, I'm sure they'd love to hear your reasons why no quitting programs are required.

Its moronic statements like yours that prove the low intelligence level of people. Whats the point of jail? Its a punishment for crime committed against society.

Currently In jail most of the time a prisoner spends is dead waiting time - surely the time could be better spent on educating and training the prisoners so that when they get out, they at least have an opportunity to do something else? I'm not naive to think that all prisoners will "change" their life, get a job and start paying tax, but some might, even if it is a minority or small percentage, the price would be worth it.

[shrub]

Absolutely, make them really suffer. Let's find ways to make prison even more stressful and violent and let's introduce another way to make money on the black market.

Forget about the silly idea of reintegrating them back into society, or rehabilitating them. Much better having them come out even more fucked up.

[rie]

Currently In jail most of the time a prisoner spends is dead waiting time - surely the time could be better spent on educating and training the prisoners so that when they get out, they at least have an opportunity to do something else? I'm not naive to think that all prisoners will "change" their life, get a job and start paying tax, but some might, even if it is a minority or small percentage, the price would be worth it.

They are not short of education and training programs in nz jails. We pay millions for it. We pay so much that Nat wants to privatise it for efficiency etc, etc (freemarket speech here)

[The Pastor]

Yeah, but they are not compulsory

[The Pastor]

Absolutely, make them really suffer. Let's find ways to make prison even more stressful and violent and let's introduce another way to make money on the black market.

Forget about the silly idea of reintegrating them back into society, or rehabilitating them. Much better having them come out even more fucked up.

So you'd rather make the problem worse than try and fix it?

There are two ways of stopping repeat crime, Remove the criminal permitaly or change the person.

Some people can't be changed, thats when my friend the .22 comes into play.

[mashman]

Yeah, but they are not compulsory

so you want to make education and training compulsory for inmates?

[shrub]

So you'd rather make the problem worse than try and fix it?

There are two ways of stopping repeat crime, Remove the criminal permitaly or change the person.

Some people can't be changed, thats when my friend the .22 comes into play.

Change the person? What is this crazy idea you have? Are you suggesting that we can actually reduce crime by looking beyond punishment? Good God man, have you not seen how the death penalty has dramatically reduced the homicide rate in the US? now if you'll excuse me, my pig has just flown off and I need to catch him.

[98tls]

They are not short of education and training programs in nz jails. We pay millions for it. We pay so much that Nat wants to privatise it for efficiency etc, etc (freemarket speech here)

Really,care to tell me about these education and training programmes.