GSXR400/1135 hybrid race bike '80s

**Grumph** · 31st October 2015, 08:37

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

I'm very grateful for all the input & no doubt this thread will shape my decisions on what to use in the build.
It just occurred to me that I could build it as a road legal race replica, that would probably be more fun & useable than coming 7th in pre '89, it's unlikely to get near the front runners. Although it's another rego to keep up on & I do have plenty of road bikes, oh, and race bikes.
What a dilemma.

Have you seen Gary Jamieson's Moriwaki Honda 750 ? It's pretty much what you want to build but Honda...
Horses for courses, on Levels with Robbie riding, the good FZR1000's and GSXR's can't stay with the Mori...I'd reckon to know at least two or three riders who could do the same on it too. Just got to pick your battles with a 750. Street circuits and tight tracks you're in with a chance.
And it's something different. I'm a great specials fan and loathe the stock manx Norton pre 63 and the "factory racing" TZ's etc. Celebrate the great specials building history here and in Oz.

**Kickaha** · 31st October 2015, 10:41

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

Can't say I was disappointed with my own choice however.

Probably saved you a lot of crash repairs as well

**scrivy** · 31st October 2015, 11:50

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

You were Jay's first pick to ride the GSX at the Barry Shorai. Can't say I was disappointed with my own choice however.

Was Ken caught measuring your shocks??

**sidecar bob** · 31st October 2015, 12:56

Originally Posted by scrivy

Was Ken caught measuring your shocks??

Yep, lurkers be lurkin.
https://www.facebook.com/carlcoxmoto...type=3&theater
The rear warmer isint even on yet & he's got his notebook out writing down the spring numbers.
That's after the organiser put us back on the 5th row due to a protest after a qualifying hiccup where we had been allowed front row.

**sidecar bob** · 31st October 2015, 13:03

Originally Posted by Grumph

Have you seen Gary Jamieson's Moriwaki Honda 750 ? It's pretty much what you want to build but Honda...
Horses for courses, on Levels with Robbie riding, the good FZR1000's and GSXR's can't stay with the Mori...I'd reckon to know at least two or three riders who could do the same on it too. Just got to pick your battles with a 750. Street circuits and tight tracks you're in with a chance.
And it's something different. I'm a great specials fan and loathe the stock manx Norton pre 63 and the "factory racing" TZ's etc. Celebrate the great specials building history here and in Oz.

I'm all about the specials. The best part about them is they're unique, & usually built by battlers that can't afford the latest GP machinery which makes them quite inexpensive to duplicate as they're often a mix of readily available period stuff, not unobtanium & cantaffordium.
I don't know the Jamison bike.

**sidecar bob** · 31st October 2015, 13:33

Originally Posted by Kickaha

Probably saved you a lot of crash repairs as well

I think Jay was keen to see someone slower than him on it.

**Grumph** · 31st October 2015, 14:16

lets see if I can now post a pic.

Looks like it's worked, This is the Moriwaki Honda. Full HRC 16V 750 motor. As ridden by Robbie in Japanese F1. Mr Gardener rode one too and would like to buy it....

**husaberg** · 31st October 2015, 14:22

Originally Posted by Grumph

lets see if I can now post a pic.

Looks like it's worked, This is the Moriwaki Honda. Full HRC 16V 750 motor. As ridden by Robbie in Japanese F1. Mr Gardener rode one too and would like to buy it....

That stuff on the Moriwaki did I email it to you I can't seem to find where I posted it if I did?

**jasonu** · 31st October 2015, 14:49

Originally Posted by Grumph

lets see if I can now post a pic.

Looks like it's worked, This is the Moriwaki Honda. Full HRC 16V 750 motor. As ridden by Robbie in Japanese F1. Mr Gardener rode one too and would like to buy it....

The frame looks like it is made from furniture tube.

**Grumph** · 31st October 2015, 15:46

Originally Posted by husaberg

That stuff on the Moriwaki did I email it to you I can't seem to find where I posted it if I did?

Don't know, can't remember, between you and gary reciting it's history i hit overload...

Originally Posted by jasonu

The frame looks like it is made from furniture tube.

Yes, but big square Japanese furniture tube, NOT. Moriwaki were pioneers of alloy frames and did their research on alloys first.....Apparently the collector who had that also had a rolling chassis much the same for a Z1 motor. Gardner rode an alloy framed Z1 for Moriwaki at daytona...If I'd had the dosh, I'd have followed that one up.

**husaberg** · 31st October 2015, 15:48

Originally Posted by jasonu

The frame looks like it is made from furniture tube.

Originally Posted by Grumph

Don't know, can't remember, between you and gary reciting it's history i hit overload...
Yes, but big square Japanese furniture tube, NOT. Moriwaki were pioneers of alloy frames and did their research on alloys first.....Apparently the collector who had that also had a rolling chassis much the same for a Z1 motor. Gardner rode an alloy framed Z1 for Moriwaki at daytona...If I'd had the dosh, I'd have followed that one up.

it would be in Jan 2014 this is where these pics where in an email to you I have a habit deleting stuff once I post it.
I can't be assed trying to remember what magazine it was in.
but the story goes that it was a back door engine developed mainly by HRC they did a lot of kit parts for the bike but never pushed it hard as they didn't want it to overshadow the V4's. so it was left to Moriwaki to race.
it had a lot of Ti and other special parts like the gearbox.
It only just missed out by a few points beating all the much newer bikes in the Japanese F1 comp.
Moriwaki also did a frame for the RS250 that like the CBX with twin shocks only mounted even further through the swingarm.

**nudemetalz** · 31st October 2015, 15:54

Reminds of this I had back in 1990. Magic bike, loved it to bits,..that is until I wrote it off coming back from Akaroa.....

**Grumph** · 31st October 2015, 15:59

Moriwaki could almost have had the slogan "racing the motors Honda don't want to..."
The only time in period they did something in parallel to the works bikes was the RC30 we saw here. Quite different to a customer RC30. Different pipes, visibly different power characteristics - a wheelie monster. I remember watching it exit the Levels esses - on the back wheel. Which aint easy - or common even now...

**husaberg** · 31st October 2015, 16:07

Originally Posted by Grumph

Moriwaki could almost have had the slogan "racing the motors Honda don't want to..."
The only time in period they did something in parallel to the works bikes was the RC30 we saw here. Quite different to a customer RC30. Different pipes, visibly different power characteristics - a wheelie monster. I remember watching it exit the Levels esses - on the back wheel. Which aint easy - or common even now...

I remember the pics of the one that Croz used to have something to do with the testing of them out here in the off season, not a part that even looked like a RC30 than even had another name for it X something.
Pretty def the frame was Moriwaki own design.

I posted these pics maybe I never scanned the article

Originally Posted by husaberg

I like the Honda version better (ok moriwoki)
Note the rear shocks i think they did a NSR version as well

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...post1130666019