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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post
    the peasants revolt!.............
    Peasants have always been revolting haven't they..?.....errrr...hang on, that doesn't sound quite right..or something...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usarka View Post
    You ride a machine running on fossil fuels for fun? You're about as green as an arse biscuit thats fallen behind the damp sink along with the zit puss and pube bleach.
    Ah yes, the old "you're a greeny so you have to ride a bicycle and wear organic hemp clothing" argument. Sadly for people like you who need a simplistic view to understand the world, life is not a binary; in other words everyone who is a greeny isn't a hard core vegan eco warrior living in a mud brick house on Waiheke island; and there are an infinite number of interpretations of "green" as a behaviour. For example, I eat meat, ride a motorcycle and wear leather when I ride, yet I also grow my own vegetables, minimise the use of my car, use my pushbike for round town and short trips, am a member of the Green party and don't believe in the munificence of the global corporates. Confused? It gets worse: I also think that GE might have some important answers to the problems we face and think that nuclear power may one day be a good thing (but not here if that's OK), yet I am engaged in fulltime research looking at ways that businesses can operate sustainably and profitably and support the Sea Shepherds and Greenpeace.

    Sorry to dump such confusing and scary stuff on you first thing in the morning and I hope the voices in your head aren't arguing too loudly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post
    These MMP governments just keep raising our taxes by calling them all sorts of imaginative names but soon the last straw will be reached!
    History tells us that sooner or later the peasants revolt!.............cant be too far away from breaking point with this lot, surely! Viva la revolution! Nick for a start!
    History also tells us that the best way to give the peasants a voice is with proportional representation.
    Don't blame me, I voted Green.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shrub View Post
    Ah yes, the old "you're a greeny so you have to ride a bicycle and wear organic hemp clothing" argument. Sadly for people like you who need a simplistic view to understand the world, life is not a binary; in other words everyone who is a greeny isn't a hard core vegan eco warrior living in a mud brick house on Waiheke island; and there are an infinite number of interpretations of "green" as a behaviour. For example, I eat meat, ride a motorcycle and wear leather when I ride, yet I also grow my own vegetables, minimise the use of my car, use my pushbike for round town and short trips, am a member of the Green party and don't believe in the munificence of the global corporates. Confused? It gets worse: I also think that GE might have some important answers to the problems we face and think that nuclear power may one day be a good thing (but not here if that's OK), yet I am engaged in fulltime research looking at ways that businesses can operate sustainably and profitably and support the Sea Shepherds and Greenpeace.

    Sorry to dump such confusing and scary stuff on you first thing in the morning and I hope the voices in your head aren't arguing too loudly.
    I bow to your superior intellect and lack of humour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usarka View Post
    I bow to your superior intellect and lack of humour.
    Of course you do. And I have a great sense of humour - I find you rather amusing.
    Don't blame me, I voted Green.

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    Effectively Taking us for Suckers

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    which is weird, cos I was unaware that 20 year old trees stopped converting 'bad air' to 'good air'
    They must do - cos Carter Holt Harvey cuts them down around then and plants new one.
    Lets cut down some Kauris, those fuckers must be horrible for the air
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    Quote Originally Posted by shrub View Post
    History also tells us that the best way to give the peasants a voice is with proportional representation.
    That's why the ocean changed when I pissed in it?

    My moto is fire is the best way to give peasants a voice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usarka View Post
    You ride a machine running on fossil fuels for fun? You're about as green as an arse biscuit thats fallen behind the damp sink along with the zit puss and pube bleach.
    Someone take a dump in your coffee this morning?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston001 View Post
    Yep but I can't see why it won't work. Money is a powerful persuader - just consider the threads on here about the cost of gear, bikes, workshops etc. Some posters seem to be having apoplexy at times particularly on the ACC topic. And what are they on about....??? MONEY.So we cannot pretend that putting prices up won't matter. If a ream of paper from a low-carbon supplier is cheaper than from a high-carbon supplier, guess which one will sell best? Heck good old wool and cotton might make a comeback against the oil fabrics - nylon, polyprop etc.The rational business decision is to reduce the carbon consumption so you don't need to buy credits.
    Its only $3 a week. As I have commented before, that's not going to change anyone's habits. Even the poor will still be able to drive, keep warm, and eat meat. It would have to be $30-$300 a week to really change habits.

    But where is the money going ? We can track some of it. Gmint has budgeted 1.6 to 2 billion for payment to forestry operators. (It depends on how many agree to take the money instead of cutting down the trees.) The more that take the money, the more expensive wood will become, and the more tax you will pay.

    Say it was $1.8 billion, and it was distributed on the basis of forestry area.

    Then, here's how the money would be divided up.
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    money money money.... money sucks I hate the shit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NighthawkNZ View Post
    money money money.... money sucks I hate the shit...
    I'm willing to take yours if you don't want it anymore
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    Quote Originally Posted by shrub View Post
    History also tells us that the best way to give the peasants a voice is with proportional representation.
    True but it doesn't have to be MMP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    I'm willing to take yours if you don't want it anymore
    haven,t got any to give...

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