Wayne Gardner demands immediate TT ban

[emaN]

I rode there in 04 before the Mountain section was "one way-ed" and rode there in 07 when it was "one way".
The difference was huge.
Mad Sunday was no longer the day when thousands of riders went balls-out-crazy, as by then we'd all had a week of the Mountain section all one-way to play on.
Felt loads safer. Although we still made a conscious effort to just do the one lap & get back to camp and park up.

[manxkiwi]

I can't help but wonder if the fact that the event organisers are happy to accommodate such idiocy as Mad Sunday, might not hint at the possibility of a slightly cavalier attitude towards safety over the whole event.

Nobody 'accommodates' anything. 'Mad Sunday' is a name, that's all. All those people are going around everyday. It's a public open road as it always is outside road closures. I can also assure you that there's nothing 'cavalier' about the safety attitude of the organisers. The TT has changed heaps in recent years for the sake of safety. You can't 'make it safe'. But they do all they possibly can.

The TT really must be experienced for anyone to understand what it's all about.

[Katman]

Nobody 'accommodates' anything. 'Mad Sunday' is a name, that's all. All those people are going around everyday. It's a public open road as it always is outside road closures. I can also assure you that there's nothing 'cavalier' about the safety attitude of the organisers. The TT has changed heaps in recent years for the sake of safety. You can't 'make it safe'. But they do all they possibly can.

The TT really must be experienced for anyone to understand what it's all about.

Hey, even the Cold Kiwi (not known as a paragon of sense and sensibility) closes down the hill climb after the event finishes (since someone was killed on it a few years ago).

[ashracer]

My God where do you start, well firstly by saying all you people who have never been to the IOM TT, do the honorable thing & remove your comments with an apology as you are not qualified to comment on something you have never been to. Such comments as the ise of man needs the money, what a load of shit. The IOM is not fucking Samoa!! its a wealthy self goverend island (The oldest continous government in the world) that does not rely on the beer money of 40.000 motorcycle fans to survive. Yes if you own a pub, hotel, burger bar you will do well over the TT fortnight. I have been 10 times, got to meet some great people, been pit crew for 7 TT's and spectator for 3.
As for the comment that people go to see a fatal crash?? once again what a load of crap, i have never meet any one that is not there for the racing. Mad sunday? its just a name, you can ride around the circuit any day of the week (Ecxept when the racing is on) i have never raced there but have done lots of laps on bikes from a TDM 850 to a variety of borrowed sports bikes over the years. Even done lots of laps in rental cars to know the track so you can have a conversation with a rider about the track.

In the words of the David Jefferies who i had the great privilage of having had a beer with;

Those who risk nothing,
Do nothing,
Achieve nothing,
Become nothing.

[avgas]

Hey, even the Cold Kiwi (not known as a paragon of sense and sensibility) closes down the hill climb after the event finishes (since someone was killed on it a few years ago).

With pussy comments I see in the rest of this thread - I am surprised I am still allowed to ride a motorbike on the road.

[Dreama]

I for one withdraw my support for the event to come to an end having read most of the posts here and then deciding that indeed, the event is bigger than anything I imagined it is, obviously since I've never been ( but make no mistake ...I have always wanted to go to ... and compete).
I do feel the posts supporting the closure have been generally more intelligent reading than the emotional opponents of closure, but that's what happens when passion is involved.

However, from the beginning my only point was this .... when is it time to say enough is enough ?? ...... regarding specifically the big modern bikes ... ie, at what point do they become too insanely fast to race at maximum speeds around narrow country roads.

[dipshit]

regarding specifically the big modern bikes ... ie, at what point do they become too insanely fast to race at maximum speeds around narrow country roads.

Nobody cares apparently.

Motorbikes are ridden by big tough men that don't give a fuck about such things... so it seems.

[Rick 52]

Those who risk nothing,
Do nothing,
Achieve nothing,
Become nothing.

Brilliant!! Well said !! DJ what a great bloke

[CHOPPA]

Those who risk nothing,
Do nothing,
Achieve nothing,
Become nothing.

Brilliant!! Well said !! DJ what a great bloke

Thanks for that! I might go do that bank job ive been planning... what does the misses know!

[wharfy]

Brilliant!! Well said !! DJ what a great bloke

Thanks for that! I might go do that bank job ive been planning... what does the misses know!

Thats my retirement plan - If I get away with it I'll be set - if I don't then, that will be my retirement taken care of

[jellywrestler]

Hey, even the Cold Kiwi (not known as a paragon of sense and sensibility) closes down the hill climb after the event finishes (since someone was killed on it a few years ago).

no one has ever been killed at the cold kiwi or indeed seriously injured, just the odd collar bone etc, bit of liver damage from time to time there though

[ashracer]

...... regarding specifically the big modern bikes ... ie, at what point do they become too insanely fast to race at maximum speeds around narrow country roads.

Unfortunately the manufacturers lost interest in 750's so its 1000cc or 600cc for everyone. The sidecars were reduced from 1000cc (to 600) in 1980.
What was considered the "amature classes " have also been dropped, no 125, 250, 400cc classes or super singles any more, to stop less experienced riders.

[Katman]

no one has ever been killed at the cold kiwi or indeed seriously injured, just the odd collar bone etc, bit of liver damage from time to time there though

My apologies if I've got it wrong Spyda. I thought that someone was killed (or at least seriously injured) a few years back riding it pissed (maybe on the Friday) which was what prompted the hill climb to be netted off.

[gixerracer]

Couldnt have said it better

My God where do you start, well firstly by saying all you people who have never been to the IOM TT, do the honorable thing & remove your comments with an apology as you are not qualified to comment on something you have never been to. Such comments as the ise of man needs the money, what a load of shit. The IOM is not fucking Samoa!! its a wealthy self goverend island (The oldest continous government in the world) that does not rely on the beer money of 40.000 motorcycle fans to survive. Yes if you own a pub, hotel, burger bar you will do well over the TT fortnight. I have been 10 times, got to meet some great people, been pit crew for 7 TT's and spectator for 3.
As for the comment that people go to see a fatal crash?? once again what a load of crap, i have never meet any one that is not there for the racing. Mad sunday? its just a name, you can ride around the circuit any day of the week (Ecxept when the racing is on) i have never raced there but have done lots of laps on bikes from a TDM 850 to a variety of borrowed sports bikes over the years. Even done lots of laps in rental cars to know the track so you can have a conversation with a rider about the track.

In the words of the David Jefferies who i had the great privilage of having had a beer with;

Those who risk nothing,
Do nothing,
Achieve nothing,
Become nothing.

[gixerracer]

From what I have heard over the years you are pretty lucky no body killed you as the seem to struggle to get to grips with you humour????????/

no one has ever been killed at the cold kiwi or indeed seriously injured, just the odd collar bone etc, bit of liver damage from time to time there though