The Crewe murders

**Maha** · 2nd July 2010, 08:42

I have (for many years now) believed that Janette killed Harvey then killed her self a few days later.
Murder Suicide if you will.
I read the David Yallop book 'Beyond Reasonable Doubt' at that was my conclusion.
I always thought that the woman seen holding the baby outside the house was infact Janette.
Seeing Vivienne (Thomas) on TV last, it now appears that my own thoughts on the murders have been wrong.
Up until now, Len Demler I feel, knew about the murders and helped dispose of the bodies.
I thought that he dumped Harvey's body in the Waikato and when Janette killed killer herself he dumped her body there also.
That scenario is now probably not what happened at all.

The case should be re-opened.

**doc** · 2nd July 2010, 08:54

Demler did it I reckon.

Not much point reopening the case when they couldn't solve the Kahui case though is it ?

**Maha** · 2nd July 2010, 09:07

The Police at the time were all over Demler but out of know where, they arrested and charged Arthur Allen Thomas.
Why? because they had nothing on Demler and they were un immense pressure from the Government to charge someone.
Even Thomas's brothers dont believe it was Demler, but some farm hand that lived close by.

Interesting...one of the Kahui twins was named Cru (Crew)....

**karla** · 2nd July 2010, 10:39

I think it was the cute little redhead who was left feeding the baby ...

**jahrasti** · 2nd July 2010, 11:22

Originally Posted by doc

Demler did it I reckon.

Not much point reopening the case when they couldn't solve the Kahui case though is it ?

Maybe if the shithead family actually spoke the truth what happened it might have had a different result.

But your comment is not surprising, bag the cops instead of the inbred family who lied their way to an aquital.

**HenryDorsetCase** · 2nd July 2010, 11:23

Its "Crewe" isn't it?

**HenryDorsetCase** · 2nd July 2010, 11:25

Originally Posted by jahrasti

Maybe if the shithead family actually spoke the truth what happened it might have had a different result.

But your comment is not surprising, bag the cops instead of the inbred family who lied their way to an aquital.

My thoughts on Kahui were bullet in the head for the parents, sterilise every other family member, and adopt the kids to someone who will look after them properly. That "neighbour" principle again.

**jahrasti** · 2nd July 2010, 11:31

Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase

My thoughts on Kahui were bullet in the head for the parents, sterilise every other family member, and adopt the kids to someone who will look after them properly. That "neighbour" principle again.

I agree one hundy percent.

**scumdog** · 2nd July 2010, 11:37

Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase

My thoughts on Kahui were bullet in the head for the parents, sterilise every other family member, and adopt the kids to someone who will look after them properly. That "neighbour" principle again.

Gotta love that caring you have!!

**MSTRS:Me** · 2nd July 2010, 11:46

Originally Posted by scumdog

Gotta love that caring you have!!

Friend of Flow's, are you? (last night's 10/7)

**scumdog** · 2nd July 2010, 11:57

Originally Posted by MSTRS

Friend of Flow's, are you? (last night's 10/7)

Boy-o-boy-o-boy, and people like that BREED!

That car-load made Dumb and Dumber look like rocket-scientists!

Anyhoo, back on topic I guess.....

**slofox** · 2nd July 2010, 12:12

This particular case, with its planted evidence etc etc etc, is what destroyed my faith in the New Zealand police force. A faith that I have never fully recovered. Pity - I've known quite a few cops who were pretty good people (and the odd arsehole as well). But the organisation as a whole I now view with a degree of cynicism.

**Bald Eagle** · 2nd July 2010, 12:13

Originally Posted by slofox

This particular case, with its planted evidence etc etc etc, is what destroyed my faith in the New Zealand police force. A faith that I have never fully recovered. Pity - I've known quite a few cops who were pretty good people (and the odd arsehole as well). But the organisation as a whole I now view with a degree of cynicism.

Subsequent political interference had the same effect on my diminishing faith in the independence of the judicial process.

**slofox** · 2nd July 2010, 12:15

Originally Posted by Bald Eagle

Subsequent political interference had the same effect on my diminishing faith in the independence of the judicial process.

Yes. With you on that as well.

**Edbear** · 2nd July 2010, 12:34

Originally Posted by Maha

I have (for many years now) believed that Janette killed Harvey then killed her self a few days later.
Murder Suicide if you will.
I read the David Yallop book 'Beyond Reasonable Doubt' at that was my conclusion.
I always thought that the woman seen holding the baby outside the house was infact Janette.
Seeing Vivian (Thomas) on TV last, it now appears that my own thoughts on the murders have been wrong.
Up until now, Len Demler I feel, knew about the murders and helped dispose of the bodies.
I thought that he dumped Harvey's body in the Waikato and when Janette killed killer herself he dumped her body there also.
That scenario is now probably not what happened at all.

The case should be re-opened.

INteresting news item...http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10655957