Yep.Originally Posted by Swoop
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Ultimate keyboard Warrior
Yep.
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Wearing Hi-Viz Black.
This "impressive shooting" is what has caused the police being banned from all of the shooting ranges around Auckland. They had to set their own range up in South Auckland because of their actions and damages inflicted to the other ranges.
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Anarchic Wild Child
I didn't say every hunter was a good shot .. like police some of them are pretty good and some of them are crappy too ...
I'll bet there are some crims out there who can't shoot either - but will still pull the trigger ...
Maybe training the cops is a good idea ... at least improve their shooting ... but the crims will always have bigger and better weapons ... It's like the War on Terror ... how do you stop a suicide bomber who expects to die anyway ? You stop them becoming suicide bombers ... How to you stop a crim? Stop them becoming crims ... once their a suicide bomber or a crim, it's too late ...
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troglodytam extraordinaire
There's a big difference between good shooting and good shooting practice.
Tornado Alley
Aint that the truth. Times have changed.
Good ole TV3.... at it again..... they are good like that......
But dope is supposed to mellow folk out.... or so some of the legalise dope crusaders out there want you to believe....
Damage included leaving dirty coffee cups and not taking the rubbish away....... Poor form for sure....., but what is this other "damage" you refer to?
It was mostly a cost measure.... it was cheaper to build your own range than hire one on an almost permanent basis......
troglodytam extraordinaire
So what then just let the crims do what the fuck they like?
Crims will always have the upper hand as they only use the law when it suits then, like as a defence, but that is no reason to not let the cops be able to defend themselves.
To many people posts here about being able to defend themselves, their property or their family and friends so why can't the police have the right to do so, as the saying goes you don't take a knife to a gun fight.
The crims are all ready armed so if to defend themselves the police become armed then so be it, it is up to them not some bunch of wimping liberals, and who knows if you all think you might get shot by the under trained police, maybe it might make people more likley to comply when asked to do something.
Forum whore
Dope makes unstable people more unstable.
Sad to say, but it's rather like alcohol in that regard.
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Wearing Hi-Viz Black.
The sheer quantity of rounds embedded in the range structures and "no shoot" areas.
One range had the butts heightened by approximately 750mm to reduce the amount of rounds going over the top...
We are not just talking about a few bits of rubbish being left around.
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Slapper?
"whoa there fella dont shoot yet just give me a minute to pop out the car and grab me gun,ta."So your answer is to forget that the bad guy arms himself at will but you wont see the guys that have to deal with him the same.Jesus no wonder they find it hard to get decent recruits eh,anyone fancy a Turkey shoot?we will pay you well to be a target.Fuck that.
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"channellling the Pleideans"
they shot that poor fucker in the FACE. anytime anyone points a gun at someone its with the intention of killing them.
LAPD and other jurisdictions have shotguns. Remington combat shotguns. 16 inch barrel, 7 shot 20 gauge pistol grip. So do most urban warfare army units, and for good reason: they pack major stoppage power into a small parcel, they havent got a huge range esp with the short barrel, and if they tag someone, they WILL go down.
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"channellling the Pleideans"
didnt see it. What i mainly object to is the fact that all the crims have guns now*, and we send our po po in with a fucking "nearly" stab proof vest, and their winning charm and personal skills. So the stakes are already pretty high, for our public servants at least.
not sure about the double post thing: I tend to use quick reply with quote option, and it then goes to the long format reply screen then say "you must wait ten seconds" so I hit it again thinking it hasnt worked, but it in fact had. Magic.
*well, you could safely assume that where drugs are involved....
also, another thought. I have long thought that all drugs should be decriminalised, starting with marijuana. If that was the case, then this clusterfuck yesterday would not have happened.
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Ultimate keyboard Warrior
Nope, I never said to forget anything, especially not that some people have the mentality to carry arms and to shoot people, Cops and crims alike.
My point was that arming all cops around the clock merely raises the stakes rather then evening them, Truth be told the power and resources of the law far outweighs the power of the pothead with a 22, So it is in the favour of the police already(as it should be)
Dealing with shitheads, violence is always going to be a day to day issue.
"channellling the Pleideans"
any mind altering substance will most likely have deleterious effects on a small minority of the people who consume it. Alcohol is the obvious legal example: not everyone who drinks becomes an alcoholic, same as not everyone who gambles becomes a gambling addict.
Some people who recreationally use marijuana or marijuana products will become addicted (psychologically addicted that is, not physically dependent like with opiates or methamphetamine). But for the vast majority of its users, it causes no more issue than having a glass or two of wine with dinner. And, for the record, I dont use it.
What is self evident is that the "War on Drugs" does not work. So, you decriminalise pot first up. But subject to controls, like alcohol: You can't SELL it, for example, to ANYONE, but you can possess it, and you can supply it. you can't have it if you are under 18, you cant use it in a public place, you cant use it and drive a car, etc etc etc. Easy to do, and we as a society do it already with alcohol.
It cuts the economic base of the gangs down, because now no one who wants this stuff needs to deal with criminal scumbags. That means they do a starve, hopefully making it a less attractive lifestyle option in the poorer suburbs. It allows the po po to actually go out and (wait for it) chase "Real" crims. Or at least come round my house and pretend to give two fucks if I get burgled.
But if you steal stuff to sell to get it, then you get punished, If you break in my house in a drug fuelled haze, you get put to death.
Its the neighbor principle:
"Do what you want, till it pisses off the neighbors"
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"channellling the Pleideans"
What we're saying is "at least give the poor sad-ass po po SOME option when confronted with a crazed fucktard with a gun" Presently, all they can do is pull down their mirror shades and bristle their moustache at the crackhead.
Equalising does not equate with escalation, in my view. If I understand it correctly, that is your view. We differ.
And its not like the crims are going to trade in their .22's on AR15's with that cool little grenade launcher thing (cos they're hard to get), is it: crims arent licenced gun owners anyway, so restrictive gun laws dont apply to them anyway.
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