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    Angry Taiwanese tosser thinks he can mess with me, nuh uh!

    Fuckin' fumin' lately and need to vent and as this occurred in Taiwan and as I also currently ride a scooter (booooo hiissss I hear you all say...) decided to post this in rant/rave. It's quite long I realize but just have to fucking vent.

    January had a minor traffic accident. I approached a four way residential intersection, no traffic lights and no stop signs (stop signs don't exist in this country...). I was going to turn left, so did the normal routine of turning on my left turn blinker, hugging the middle yellow line as close as possible and slowed as I approached the intersection.

    There were several scooters oncoming, one was close and I started to go as he passed me. I recognized that there were several other scooters coming but they were not close to the intersection and I judged that I would have enough time to turn and clear safely.

    That said, when I committed to my turn and was already in the middle of the intersection a very young scooter driver came flying into the intersection, proceeded to jam on his brakes, which caused his scooter to dip down and fling him from it as his scooter slid into the right side of mine.

    I ask if he's alright, if he needs an ambulance or anything and the first (and not last) thing he states (translated into English) are "You will give me money to fix my scooter." We both call the police who show up, take measurements, pictures of damage done to both scooters and also give us both BAC tests.

    His father calls my wife a few times after the accident, every single time she tells him not to contact her but to contact me.

    I never was contacted. 2 months pass and now he contacts me, saying he wants to meet to discuss the accident.

    The initial police report came out and it never explicitly stated who was at fault. I was cited for failing to yield to oncoming traffic and his son was cited for something as well. However one important thing is that the very thing I was cited for also has a clause stating (again a translation from Chinese into English) that a left turning vehicle does have right of way if it's already committed to the turn and in the intersection while the oncoming traffic has not reached the intersection yet.

    So I agree to meet him last Thursday morning and he waddles in 20 minutes late and proceeds to tell me that the accident is 70% my fault, not only that but the damage to his son's bike and other things (ie helmet) are over 1,300 NZ$.

    I ask him how he arrives at this conclusion and he tells me his insurance agent and a 'lawyer friend' looked at the police report and told him this.

    Now, this is odd for a few reasons.

    I had my helmet camera on when the accident occurred. As soon as I was done talking to the police I went to my wife's office and checked what the camera got, and bingo it got everything from start to finish quite clearly. I immediately made a copy and that very night gave it to the police officer who was handling the accident.

    2 months ago my wife told the father (hence forth known as a fucking tosser) that if he wanted a copy of the video we'd give it to him. He stated he didn't need it.

    Thursday I again ask him if he wants a copy, and he says no, that he has his own video. I ponder this and perhaps that is true, as there are lots of government owned CCTV cameras around, but later realize this is lie number one. This is a lie because at that intersection there is only one CCTV camera, and it's facing completely the wrong way to have viewed the accident.

    One of the many things he told me that needed to be fixed was his son's helmet, not only that but it was so damaged that he needed to buy a brand new one. This is lie number two as in the video that I have it is clear that his helmet never impacts the ground.

    Thursday I had brought my wife's laptop and showed him my video, he was pretty much dead silent for a few minutes after that and then started to tell me that my video has nothing to do with the accident we are talking about and furthermore that he is trying to do me a favor, that if I understood Chinese better I would see the light of day and realize I'm wrong and he is right. I don't take being patronized to very well let alone to me this is reeking of extortion.

    Right, so I told him I'll get back to him about arbitration. In Taiwan in a non-criminal accident such as this first we can talk to each other to get it sorted out. If that doesn't work we go to arbitration to have a third person mediate. If that doesn't work we go to court.

    Now, thing is I know this fucking tosser is fucking with me, most likely because I'm a foreigner and while yes my Chinese isn't fluent, that has no bearing on this accident.

    My next steps are the following:
    1) I'm already in the process of getting a more detailed scene investigation done by the police themselves.
    2) Once I get that detailed scene investigation I will proceed.
    3) As I don't have any documented evidence of his lies I will plan to set up another meeting with him and either by video or audio document his lies as further evidence.
    4) At the end of the day IF the police do actually say yes, it's 70% my fault well then I'm not really out anything. That said, I do believe that even if I'm at fault it's no where near 70%.

    I won't be fucked with in this manner and in fact it's given me a fire under my ass to, if nothing else, teach this fucking tosser and his son not to fuck with others in such a way.

    Karma speaking, that very Thursday night my scooter started making a really weird noise (not related to the accident) and I had to park it, most likely the transmission I think. That said, a close friend is selling his 150cc motorcycle and will give me a good price on it, so hopefully actually within a week or so I'll be properly on a motorcycle and scooter-less for good.

    Thanks if you actually read through the entire rant, at least at the end of the day I'm still healthy and can still .

    Cheers.

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    Yup! I read it! Bloody sicko's... trying to screw you for their own fault. Sad that there are so many dishonest people in the world - and yes, not really surprising when you take the location into account.

    Go get these mother fuckers! Hope you win, but you should!!!!

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    well that's a delightful we story....not. What a fucken tosser aright. You being the foreigner he probably is treatignn you with disdain and thinks you don't have a clue....very clever thing to have the video of it all. Good luck, hope it works out in your favour.

    PS, it's the dad believing what his son has said. Rose coloured glasses. Some parent s need to wake up

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    Wake up calls all around I'd say. Everyone tries it on when there's a grand in it - wouldn't you?

    Square yourself up inside the law, get a written statement from the police, and wait for him to put you in arbitration.

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    Why do you have to do anything?

    You aren't trying to claim anything from him and you don't beleive you are liable for the other riders bike/ stuff. All you need to do is to prepare for a defence if he tries to sue you. Would have thought the video camera is enough.

    You should get in touch with the rabid american (in Taiwan) who posts up bike ride videos on you tube. His are pretty funny - he seems to hate the locals and just constantly rants about what bad drivers they are. One vid even had a truck stopping an the driver threatening him with a stick.

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    Vid or it didn't happen you rying amewican piece of clap... (good luck mate, but i'm with wild here... do fuck all, let them do the chasing)
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    A) If you have video evidence, say nothing except he is wrong. Do not go into details, just say he is wrong. Let it go to court if you have to then show video evidence. Its very black and white after that.
    B) His scooter is not worth $1500.......not even the most expensive Lilfan in China was $5000 RMB (about NZ$900). Don't say this, only say he is wrong and you have video evidence.
    C) Whenever he says he has proof you are in the wrong, ask to see it....IF he shows you say "Bųgōu hǎo" immediately after. (Note this is what he is doing to you).
    D) Say nothing except he is wrong, you wont pay, and you have evidence he is wrong. Chinese arguments are just scare tactics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    Wake up calls all around I'd say. Everyone tries it on when there's a grand in it - wouldn't you?


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    Dont know anything about Taiwan

    Hope things are sorted for you

    From my experience in S.E. Asia you are doing fine. In many countries you would have been stitched up as 100% at fault and paying thousands for new scooter helmet and medical bills

    there would also be many witnesses that you caused the accident because you are white (assumed? but at least a foreigner) and therefore are rich and can afford to pay

    Best of luck for a fair outcome
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    They were trying to screw you from the start, first the kid, then the dad, and are on the back foot a westerner (as we are all rich). Sounds like good advice from Avgas...let it be escalated so you can use the police report and video and until then don't go into any details and deny responsibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yachtie10 View Post
    because you are white (assumed? but at least a foreigner) and therefore are rich and can afford to pay
    Sounds like the WINZ office in Manukau.
    It's only when you take the piss out of a partially shaved wookie with an overactive 'me' gene and stapled on piss flaps that it becomes a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    Wake up calls all around I'd say. Everyone tries it on when there's a grand in it - wouldn't you?
    No, actually I wouldn't.


    Thanks everyone. This is why I'm glad I actually glad I posted this, because I'm a bit pissed about the whole thing and not really thinking with a level head.

    You're all right, in fact, why the fuck do I need to do anything? As was pointed out, I'm not looking for any money from him and as far as I'm concerned I've done nothing wrong. If he wants anything from me he needs to prove a hell of a lot of things.

    So yeah, I'll still go ahead and get the full scene investigation done from the cops, hold onto my video and just wait.

    As for the video itself, as soon as this sorts itself out I'll go ahead and upload it to youtube.

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    Yay, a crash vid on youtube. And a vision into another world (Taiwan). Everybody wins.

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    Accuse him of racism.

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    Tell the father to fuck off. The accident was with the other person, and said other person is interested in continuing, then "bring it on"!
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