I want to make a complaint

**zooter** · 18th May 2005, 22:03

Indicating right and then going straight through a roundabout is bloody dangerous. This ridiculous behaviour only started after the new demerit points schedule. As far as I am aware no rules of indicating actually changed.

I'm referring to small roundabouts which replaced giveways on a straight crossroad, not the large diameter highway types where you drive on and circulate for some distance before you come to the first lot of trafffic entering to your left.

Anyways, where do I go to complain.

**jazbug5** · 18th May 2005, 22:09

Not sure what you mean here: did someone do this, or is that what you think is now supposed to happen?
Wouldn't the new rules have you indicating left just before you left..?

The thing is, the 'new' indicating rules are not (as I understand it) 'new', nor are hordes of PC Plods lurking at every mini roundabout to Take You Down.
What they are trying to address is the oh-so-common confusion at intersections where people leave a roundabout (generally bigger ones) without indicating, therefore side swiping someone who has no idea that they were 'obviously going straight through'. It may be a bit confusing at first, but... meh.
Anyway, I don't think it's going to be as supported by The Authoritays as LTNZ had hoped...?
Anyone see Campbell Live? I think there was something about it on that.

**HDTboy** · 18th May 2005, 22:12

I think a bit of discretion is needed, I never indicate when going straight through a roundabout i can see the other side of. I'm always wary of anybody indicating right though

**Jeremy** · 18th May 2005, 22:13

http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/road-user-sa...les/index.html

You don't indicate right to go straight, you indicate left when your leaving a roudabout.

Left or right, indicate in and out
Straight, indicate out.

**zooter** · 18th May 2005, 22:18

i've got a problem with the dorks that feel compelled to indicate right and then switch indicators as they cross my bows and go straight through when they're in a lane marked straight/right. Their right indication encourages me to enter the roundabout for my "left turn". That is dead wrong and needs to be the subject of an LTSA media release.

**Virago** · 18th May 2005, 22:19

Originally Posted by zooter

Indicating right and then going straight through a roundabout is bloody dangerous. This ridiculous behaviour only started after the new demerit points schedule. As far as I am aware no rules of indicating actually changed.

I'm referring to small roundabouts which replaced giveways on a straight crossroad, not the large diameter highway types where you drive on and circulate for some distance before you come to the first lot of trafffic entering to your left.

Anyways, where do I go to complain.

Your damn right. Previously the indicating rules at roundabouts (which are not rocket science), were not compulsory. Now they are, and those who previously didn't indicate now seem to use any bloody indicator at random.

I recently observed a police officer in a marked patrol car, travel straight through at a small roundabout. Unbelievably, he indicated left as he entered, and then right as he exited. I sat and stared at him - he stared back at me from his precarious moral high ground.

**zooter** · 18th May 2005, 22:23

Originally Posted by Jeremy

http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/road-user-sa...les/index.html

You don't indicate right to go straight, you indicate left when your leaving a roudabout.

Left or right, indicate in and out
Straight, indicate out.

I KNOW the blimmin rules, who do I complain to to get the rest of the public educted to cease and desist from the aformentioned phantom right indicatiing??

**Waylander** · 18th May 2005, 22:25

Ok this is how I have been doing this. Turn left indicate left, turn right indicate right then left when I pass the 12 o'clock exit, go straight nothing until leaving then indicate left when I pass the 9 o'clock exit. If this is not what the LTNZ thinks I should be doin then I don't care cause it makes sense from a common sense point of few and everyone who doesn't have the brains of a retarded dodo bird can tell what I'm doing. [/rant]

**Virago** · 18th May 2005, 22:25

Originally Posted by Jeremy

....Left or right, indicate in and out
Straight, indicate out.

......Thank you - beautifully simple explanation of a simple process!

**zooter** · 18th May 2005, 22:29

Originally Posted by Waylander

Ok this is how I have been doing this. Turn left indicate left, turn right indicate right then left when I pass the 12 o'clock exit, go straight nothing until leaving then indicate left when I pass the 9 o'clock exit. If this is not what the LTNZ thinks I should be doin then I don't care cause it makes sense from a common sense point of few and everyone who doesn't have the brains of a retarded dodo bird can tell what I'm doing. [/rant]

Yeah, you me and anyone else with half a brain already had it down pat before the powers that be started making a fuss about it. Now we've got more problems than before.

**jazbug5** · 18th May 2005, 22:38

Well, it's an LTNZ issue. I'd say you want to contact them.
This whole thing may yet be put quietly to bed by Nanny. Certainly brings the cretins out from under their slimy rocks, though.

**Waylander** · 18th May 2005, 22:38

Originally Posted by zooter

Yeah, you me and anyone else with half a brain already had it down pat before the powers that be started making a fuss about it. Now we've got more problems than before.

Now for the funny part. I'de never even seen a roundabout till I got here. Kinda odd that a damned "Merkin" has more common sense than LTNZ. Go figure.

**jazbug5** · 18th May 2005, 22:41

Originally Posted by Waylander

Now for the funny part. I'de never even seen a roundabout till I got here. Kinda odd that a damned "Merkin" has more common sense than LTNZ. Go figure.

How do you make that out?
Aren't they just trying to get the understanding and practise of proper signalling universal? The sense is lacking in those morons who indicate like Dave's Disco through every intersection or *not at all*.
After all, this is precisely where most accidents happen.

**XP@** · 18th May 2005, 22:43

[rant]why do they focus on this silly and not so dangerous rule when there is no focus on driving dangerously close or stupidly risky and pointless overtaking[/rant]
edit: added the rant tags
[rant]if you use angle brackets it removes the rant[/rant]

**Waylander** · 18th May 2005, 22:43

Originally Posted by jazbug5

How do you make that out?
Aren't they just trying to get the understanding and practise of proper signalling universal? The sense is lacking in those morons who indicate like Dave's Disco through every intersection or *not at all*.
After all, this is precisely where most accidents happen.

If that's true they are going the hard way about it. And would you rather I have said I have more sense than the average New Zealand person?