Your ideas please

[Tony.OK]

Would you prefer that our club scene catered for you first, and oldish man, or cater for the future of our sport and growth first, ie, club mans etc?

Whats age, job and income got to do with anything?
Some people can only get to very limited events because of such jobs so perhaps would like a fair stab at the sausage Shaun.
Can't see the amount of work or effort being greater just by swapping the race order around, its been done in the past with no drama's.

[wharfy]

Fuck it, I'll be entering Clubman's at Round 5. I'll get guaranteed races and will be packed up nice and early watching the shortened F1 race with a beer in my hand. Sorted.

You will not be able to go under 1:18 or you will get bumped into F1 anyway

[scracha]

I still can't understand why they're not just running F1 and F2 simultaneously and just give them say, 4 races....it's not like there's a full grid and I've not seen anyone arrive with a 6 hundy and a thou?

Used to be streetstock who got a bum deal so perhaps the club have responded.

No point whining about it here guys and it's probably just an oversight at the Vic club. Have emailed Mr Banks to request F1 be put out first or second at the last two rounds as they do seem to be getting a $hitty deal this year.

Chopper...posties have already been sent out last this year mate...must be the 125's or clubmans turn.

[Ronin]

*small voice pipes up in the background*
I get what is being said re F1. Being last in the race order, round after round, and having their last race cut short doesn't seem fair. SS often have their last race cut altogether to allow time for the F1 boys and girls - so they have a genuine gripe as well.
Is there any reason why the order can't be rotated? The order of classes stays the same except - round one F1 is last, round two they run first, round three they run second. IE just put the class at the bottom of the order to the top at the next round. Then, as the season progresses, everyone gets their turn at maybe a shortened race 3.
Cross-entered riders may get extra races - good for them - but unless the other riders in whatever class are also cross entered, then why should they miss out to 'make it fair' on those who can't cross enter in other classes?

Let's not forget that the last 2 rounds have delivered the full program

[Matt Bleck]

ummm, I have one small request, can we have a gap between F3 and F1 pretty please?

[Str8 Jacket]

ummm, I have one small request, can we have a gap between F3 and F1 pretty please?

They will. While they clean up Dunc.... oh I mean Splash....

[Matt Bleck]

They will. While they clean up Dunc.... oh I mean Splash....

Stop stalking me!!!!!!

[scracha]

ummm, I have one small request, can we have a gap between F3 and F1 pretty please?

But you called me a Scots pooftah when I said I wasn't doing back to back racing in F2 and posties this year.

[Matt Bleck]

But you called me a Scots pooftah when I said I wasn't doing back to back racing in F2 and posties this year.

The truth is I couldn't understand you and just called you a poofter anyway.......

[slowpoke]

VMCC Shaft NO ONE!
There YA go TRASH EEEEEE

WTF? Not only are you talking shit regarding something you know absolutely nothing about (my circumstances) but you're also missing the blindingly obvious. I can only make 1 club round this season so encouraging me is neither here nor there. Besides it's not worth encouraging old buggers like me is it? I mean, it's only putting money into the coffers of the Vic Club..................

Nah, I'm more concerned with encouraging the likes of Sketchy, Sam Love, Jamie Rajek, Jamie Galway etc. As it stands they don't have a viable club superbike field to step up to and their track time halves when they do, hence Choppa has to go to Oz to get a decent race outside the National's. But hey, I'm sure you know what you're doing, I mean there are heaps of young blokes rising to the standard set by Stroudie and Craig eh? And we've got lotsa racers doing well overseas eh? Oh wait, that would be no....and no.

Contrast our Superbike National's scene with BSB, AMA, Oz and WSB with young champions like Leon Camier, Ben Spies, Josh Waters taking over from the established stars and it seems to me that NZ is struggling big time in developing and advancing riders. But you're far more knowledgeable than a burnt out late starter, so if you're happy with a skinny entry list and no new challengers for years who am I to argue.

Despite Shauns comments my personal racing position has got nothing to do with my comments. Even if I did like everyone else and avoided Superbikes to ride a cross entry capable class I'd still think the same way: VMCC do a good job with very limited resources but there are some simple fundamental changes that could be made to improve the sport in general.

[Shaun]

WTF? Not only are you talking shit regarding something you know absolutely nothing about (my circumstances) but you're also missing the blindingly obvious. I can only make 1 club round this season so encouraging me is neither here nor there. Besides it's not worth encouraging old buggers like me is it? I mean, it's only putting money into the coffers of the Vic Club..................

Nah, I'm more concerned with encouraging the likes of Sketchy, Sam Love, Jamie Rajek, Jamie Galway etc. As it stands they don't have a viable club superbike field to step up to and their track time halves when they do, hence Choppa has to go to Oz to get a decent race outside the National's. But hey, I'm sure you know what you're doing, I mean there are heaps of young blokes rising to the standard set by Stroudie and Craig eh? And we've got lotsa racers doing well overseas eh? Oh wait, that would be no....and no.

Contrast our Superbike National's scene with BSB, AMA, Oz and WSB with young champions like Leon Camier, Ben Spies, Josh Waters taking over from the established stars and it seems to me that NZ is struggling big time in developing and advancing riders. But you're far more knowledgeable than a burnt out late starter, so if you're happy with a skinny entry list and no new challengers for years who am I to argue.

Despite Shauns comments my personal racing position has got nothing to do with my comments. Even if I did like everyone else and avoided Superbikes to ride a cross entry capable class I'd still think the same way: VMCC do a good job with very limited resources but there are some simple fundamental changes that could be made to improve the sport in general.

You are Correct, I am WRONG! APPOLOGIES

[slowpoke]

You are Correct, I am WRONG! APPOLOGIES

No problem..........would now be a good time ask about swapping my munted 25 year old home built trailer for your mobile pleasure palace? No? Bugger.

[Shaun]

No problem..........would now be a good time ask about swapping my munted 25 year old home built trailer for your mobile pleasure palace? No? Bugger.

My mobile plessure palace is on trade me for sale as of yesterday, I have realised that there is no point in having it, as I do NOT earn any money from it by just helping people with spare parts etc, So from now on, I take care of ME only, I have tried to help a lot of riders with things, but it is getting me know where trying to pretend to be a nice guy, so back to the old Shaun! And he WILL be racing the NZ Champs this coming season after a trip to the UK to a training camp for fitness and bike Dirt riding at a good friends place, and may even do the last 2 rounds of the BSB superstock series on my BMWS1000RR that is over there with my friend crew chief and all good to go for the TT next year.

A couple of things that have gone down lately, ( Including my own BAD actions, ie, my piss poor reply to your post) has shown me it is time to get out of helping race/riders (and trying to tell the world how to run there lives) before I totally spin out. I am Technically over my Brain injury, but still show signs of it, although I did before I Technically had one hahaha) I will still be an agent for the products I am, but that is it now.

I am here to awnser Questions from people still, as I believe in what goes around comes around, but that is it. And KB has been a good place for me.

So to all I have been involved with, thanks for the trust in me, and now please exscuse me.



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[Ivan]

good on you Shaun,
And our family thanks you for all the years you have helped us
I personally wish your future well and cant wait to see you back on a bike again we know how good you are

Regards

Ivan Juggins

[Shaun]

good on you Shaun,
And our family thanks you for all the years you have helped us
I personally wish your future well and cant wait to see you back on a bike again we know how good you are

Regards

Ivan Juggins

IVAN. Your Family is the exception to my post mate!

Re This bit

I personally wish your future well and cant wait to see you back on a bike again we know how good you are------- SHOULD READ WAS, I have to prove it to myself again, and I think I can, even though I am a silly old -ucker

Joey D won his last TT at the age of 48, I still have 2 years to go woo hoo