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**Brains** · 30th May 2005, 21:53

Just reading about the whole SH22 thing, and the aftermath with a member leaving. Reality check, fully licenced experienced riders are the most likely to die on the road. All this crap about Noobs, with you 'experienced' guys setting the standard by posting about being safe and in control cause you never went over 160km or so - especially comming from track riders who should know the amount of work it takes to get a bike ready for a couple of kms of track, ever wondered why so many die at Isle of Mann. And riders from this same group baggin on riders who were going 80km!! Sure they could have done things different/better, but lets not get into this do as I say and not as I do.

B.

**enigma51** · 30th May 2005, 21:56

Originally Posted by Brains

Just reading about the whole SH22 thing, and the aftermath with a member leaving. Reality check, fully licenced experienced riders are the most likely to die on the road. All this crap about Noobs, with you 'experienced' guys setting the standard by posting about being safe and in control cause you never went over 160km or so - especially comming from track riders who should know the amount of work it takes to get a bike ready for a couple of kms of track, ever wondered why so many die at Isle of Mann. And riders from this same group baggin on riders who were going 80km!! Sure they could have done things different/better, but lets not get into this do as I say and not as I do.

B.

Sorry mate but this has been talked to death ie pointless thread

**Biff** · 30th May 2005, 22:01

And the prize for gross generalisation goes to..........

Dude - I think the point you're trying to make is that the 'sports' bikers that ride 'too fast' are potentialy more prone to have an accident. Leave the use of 'experienced riders' out of this. There are plenty of experienced guys on here that very rarely ride very fast, take unnecessary risks etc. There are also plenty of 'experienced sports rider' who are also far safer riders and are far more tuned into hazard perceptions than 'noobs'. But your very broad and very general point is taken.

As the man said. This is one topic that's been done to death over the last few weeks. Good troll though.

Welcome BTW

**Brains** · 30th May 2005, 22:06

It seemed from the earlier threads that it was more about 'my cock is bigger than yours' (with some good stuff thrown in every 10 posts or so) sort of conversation, as opposed to factual information exchange. Informing people of information is never pointless, experienced riders die all the time because they believe a lie, if trying to reinform people and change habits is a waste of time, then it's not this thread that's a waste of time.

B.

Edit: Certainly my comments don't apply to all 'experienced' riders, however its potentially misleading to site sportsbike riders as the dangerous ones.

**Waylander** · 30th May 2005, 22:08

Come on mate just let it go. This subject has been and gone.

**Brains** · 30th May 2005, 22:10

Shit that was easy, you guys seemed to have sorted out the whole motorcycles and death thing.

I'm otta here.

**Biff** · 30th May 2005, 22:14

Originally Posted by Brains

It seemed from the earlier threads that it was more about 'my cock is bigger than yours' (with some good stuff thrown in every 10 posts or so) sort of conversation, as opposed to factual information exchange. Informing people of information is never pointless, experienced riders die all the time because they believe a lie, if trying to reinform people and change habits is a waste of time, then it's not this thread that's a waste of time.

B.

Edit: Certainly my comments don't apply to all 'experienced' riders, however its potentially misleading to site sportsbike riders as the dangerous ones.

I presume by your above statement that you must have something constructive to add to this debate then? Or are you also "measuring your cock" here?

Please, tell us all what we should be doing instead. Just in case we mere mortals have missed something in the last years worth of discussions.

Shit - I've bitten.

Snuff from me.

**Big Dave** · 30th May 2005, 22:15

As long as you don't bite him on the......nuh....

**Sensei** · 30th May 2005, 22:20

Informing people of information is never pointless, experienced riders die all the time because they believe a lie, if trying to reinform people and change habits is a waste of time, then it's not this thread that's a waste of time

Great to start this up again . I see you own a Excellent bike & quick to boot , which I would say that you have tryed out to see what it can do . Why have it , I believe if you not going to use it . Makes me laugh tho how there is all ways something about the size of peoples dick in these Post connected to people riding their bike at speeds ??????? haven't been able to look at mine yet while doing 250+k's
Let alone someone standing on the side of the road seeing it . Not going to try .

**FROSTY:Me** · 30th May 2005, 22:20

sorry brains --Your points may/may not be valid.-but as said -ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
Lets let sleeping dogs lie
Emotions were high feelings were raw.

Ok peeps lets just let this thread die

**Zed** · 30th May 2005, 22:23

Originally Posted by Brains

Just reading about the whole SH22 thing, and the aftermath with a member leaving.

The only member who left was the guy who binned his R1 on 22 then flew out of the country on a planned trip...and he's coming back! Two Smoker talked about leaving but he often says things he doesn't mean. (eh TS ya Nana rider

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Originally Posted by Brains

Reality check, fully licenced experienced riders are the most likely to die on the road. All this crap about Noobs, with you 'experienced' guys setting the standard by posting about being safe and in control cause you never went over 160km or so - especially comming from track riders who should know the amount of work it takes to get a bike ready for a couple of kms of track, ever wondered why so many die at Isle of Mann. And riders from this same group baggin on riders who were going 80km!! Sure they could have done things different/better, but lets not get into this do as I say and not as I do.

Fair enuf too Mr Brains, but the real reality check is that you had to be there!

I've said my peace on the other related threads anyway...

**Sniper** · 31st May 2005, 09:00

Brains, no!!!!

**avgas** · 31st May 2005, 09:07

Yeh well i had my most serious crash 2 years after getting my full, so i see where you are comming from.

**inlinefour** · 31st May 2005, 10:06

Originally Posted by Brains

Just reading about the whole SH22 thing, and the aftermath with a member leaving. Reality check, fully licenced experienced riders are the most likely to die on the road. All this crap about Noobs, with you 'experienced' guys setting the standard by posting about being safe and in control cause you never went over 160km or so - especially comming from track riders who should know the amount of work it takes to get a bike ready for a couple of kms of track, ever wondered why so many die at Isle of Mann. And riders from this same group baggin on riders who were going 80km!! Sure they could have done things different/better, but lets not get into this do as I say and not as I do.

B.

If you don't like it tuff. People will do WTF they want. Put the brain into gear and not yer mouth as we are only responsible for ourself.

**bugjuice** · 31st May 2005, 11:00

Originally Posted by Brains

Shit that was easy, you guys seemed to have sorted out the whole motorcycles and death thing.

I'm otta here.

it's not sorted out like it's just been flicked off the shoulder or whatever. A lot of people talked for weeks sorting it out with a lot of passion for fellow riders, their bikes and life in general, and a lot of bad stuff has happened lately to top it off. If we keep talking about it, we'll just all top ourselves. It's time to move on and learn from the past so we can live for the now, and not keep dragging it up ever couple of weeks. If you read all the threads relating to the whole month, you'll see the picture forming. We've all gone thru it and moved on with the upmost respect.

Start fresh and pick a new topic.. all's good

welcome btw