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    Aluminum welding?

    Hi
    I have gotten to the stage where I have to get the new engine mounts welded on. I have made the mounts, but have no access to a TIG Welder.
    Can someone suggest a good place or person to get this done?
    Cheers
    Max

    Some pics of progress.
    TZR frame, CB125 TD-C Engine.
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    Wow that's looking tidy!! Cool! Looks like a nice easy frame to work with. I miiiiight know someone, I will keep in touch if they say yes haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moooools View Post
    Hi
    I have gotten to the stage where I have to get the new engine mounts welded on. I have made the mounts, but have no access to a TIG Welder.
    Can someone suggest a good place or person to get this done?
    Cheers
    Max

    Some pics of progress.
    TZR frame, CB125 TD-C Engine.

    DG Engineering, not sure if he would be interested in this little job but he knows what he's doing and his welding could go in any text book.

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    Wow that's looking tidy!! Cool! Looks like a nice easy frame to work with. I miiiiight know someone, I will keep in touch if they say yes haha.
    Yeah I am getting pretty happy with it. And it is nice to work on. The engine fits in with a little bit of grinding of the fins. Hoping to buy the pipes of a CRF250 from trademe today and put those popping up behind the pegs. There is also an rs125 fairing on the way that will be modified until it fits. I am going for the whole F4 race bike look with this.

    And yeah that would be great if you could let me know.
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    Give cycleworks a ring, he's reasonably cheap, and is more than up to the task.

    Ally welding is an art, get it done properly. Might cost you a hundy.

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    Are you sure it is ali? It looks like painted steel in the pix. Whatever it is Chris Pickett will do a snappy job. 09 817 9500 Titirangi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonu View Post
    Are you sure it is ali? It looks like painted steel in the pix. Whatgever it is Chris Pickett will do a snappy job. Titirangi.
    It does have the look of painted steel.

    A magnet test is in order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gatch View Post
    It does have the look of painted steel.

    A magnet test is in order.
    Bollocks. Zoom in on the photo and look at the appearance of the existing welds.
    You might expect a bead that humungous on a steel jigger from China but that is alloy

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    It is most definitely an aluminum frame. An early deltabox.
    Thanks for all the suggestions. I can see this project falling together now.

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    Looks good... the engine sit quite some way back in the frame.... I assume thats to aline the chain etc...
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    Looks good... the engine sit quite some way back in the frame.... I assume thats to aline the chain etc...
    Yeah that is mostly because it fits in the original rear mounts really well. And secondly so the sprocket is in the right spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schrodingers cat View Post
    Bollocks. Zoom in on the photo and look at the appearance of the existing welds.
    You might expect a bead that humungous on a steel jigger from China but that is alloy
    Yep, I noticed the fatty welds as soon as I posted, then my internet dies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonu View Post
    Are you sure it is ali? It looks like painted steel in the pix. Whatever it is Chris Pickett will do a snappy job. 09 817 9500 Titirangi.
    He's in Wgtn Nobber!

    Cycleworks will do a good job appropriate for the task but will charge for it. Don't be expecting a bargain from him, but do expect it not to break.

    On that note if you have made mounts for someone to weld on; the most common mistake people make is making them too thin & unsupported. In ally with a shaky diesel engine quadruply so. Make them 4 times the size.

    Also for a decent job the area to be welded to needs to be cleaned off. The frame will have a lacquer coating on it which will cause dreadful weld.
    Angle grinder with flapper wheel is a good start, waayy more area then you ever think required.

    Even then you will likely make a poor job of it & whoever welds it will sneer to themselves about joe public 'having a go' & have to tickle it up themselves, but it will save some time. I know all this & still end up doing a lousy preparation job. But it's not my fault, I'm lazy you see.

    I'll add Morris metal product to the good list Fishy posted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    He's in Wgtn Nobber!

    Cycleworks will do a good job appropriate for the task but will charge for it. Don't be expecting a bargain from him, but do expect it not to break.

    On that note if you have made mounts for someone to weld on; the most common mistake people make is making them too thin & unsupported. In ally with a shaky diesel engine quadruply so. Make them 4 times the size.

    Also for a decent job the area to be welded to needs to be cleaned off. The frame will have a lacquer coating on it which will cause dreadful weld.
    Angle grinder with flapper wheel is a good start, waayy more area then you ever think required.

    Even then you will likely make a poor job of it & whoever welds it will sneer to themselves about joe public 'having a go' & have to tickle it up themselves, but it will save some time. I know all this & still end up doing a lousy preparation job. But it's not my fault, I'm lazy you see.

    I'll add Morris metal product to the good list Fishy posted.
    The mounts are made from two pieces of 30x30 4.5mm angle. On each side. So it will end up as a sort of 9mm thick cross. I think that will be sufficient.

    Thanks for the advice, I will try, but no doubt whoever welds it up will have a good laugh at me.

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