Linux vs Windows?

[ckai]

Cheers to those that said about Newbies vs Linux

I might have to put that to the test and get the parents to give it a whirl for shits and giggles.

[Ronin]

Of course, something to consider is that now Mom has said that her use is for a job it is likely that all she will ever have to do is sit down, logon and use the apps. No worry about anything else.

[Mom]

Of course, something to consider is that now Mom has said that her use is for a job it is likely that all she will ever have to do is sit down, logon and use the apps. No worry about anything else.

True dat, but what an intersting thread this has turned out to be

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

The Mac OSX is Unix based anyway...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X

[avgas]

$10,000 GN250 with nice fairings pretending to be a CBR250.

True......but you also have to remember that if people WANT to buy a $10,000 GN250, not even a OMG FLASH CBR250 is going to stop them doing so. This is why people buy expensive things. e.g. Aprilla RS250 vs Suzuki RGV250 same shit different skin. But fuck me I would prefer the Aprilla.

Fact of the matter is Mac have worked on something for 20 years, and ended up with something that they can mass market to a broad audience. Hardware wise I think they have done something pretty incredible.
I mean think of the fanless computers in 1990......Apple was the only one.

I would never own an Mac, but quite happily recommend them to friends a family. 15 years in technical support has told me that it's ALWAYS good to make a simple solution.

Likewise I also recommend Linux Mint for beginner linux users. It is the only Linux I have managed to stick with when not using windows. Its simple, it works......and you don't have to type a single line of code EVER!

[Ronin]

True dat, but what an intersting thread this has turned out to be

Yup, once you dig through the fanboi posts lol. Mind you... I'm wondering now about installing Ubuntu on my work machine just to see if I can do everything I need to... Hmmmm I have to use IE for our CRM program but WINE may take care of that... I feel a project coming on.

[avgas]

...and, considering the buckets and buckets of money spent by people on pc technicians, support, time spent on reformatting the hd, yelling at the monitor, bangin the head on the keyboard...

they've failed miserably...

No offense - but I believe the term is unthinking majority

[Urano]

more than 10 hours of nearly every day using a variety of operating systems for more than 20 years.
10 years contracting to a mac store as an onsite software tech and apps trainer.
10 years as an art director and production manager to various publishing houses.

ok, still don't get what running out of ram could have to do with it, but you definitely have enough experience to recognize a kernel panic.
let's count your case as 1 in statistic.
i'm in a mac ml, about 1200 members, mostly professionals. roughly in 7 years i heard about 3-4 cases, and remember explanations of defective aftermarket ram chips, and a lighting strike.
let's add yours.
5 kp in 7 years within 1k professionals, power user.

i'd call it a good record...

[Mom]

WINE may take care of that...

Wine takes care of most things I find

[ffirman]

Yup, once you dig through the fanboi posts lol. Mind you... I'm wondering now about installing Ubuntu on my work machine just to see if I can do everything I need to... Hmmmm I have to use IE for our CRM program but WINE may take care of that... I feel a project coming on.

Try using VirtualBox, either to run the Linux under first, or later to run windows under for the XP etc.

Here at work that is what I do. ie I have Ubuntu on my notebook, and VirtualBox setup to run a copy of XP just so I can request leave, and do the support tickets.

Most of the time I don't have it running, only when I need to.

Just a thought.

Fran

[Big Dave]

ok, still don't get what running out of ram could have to do with it, but you definitely have enough experience to recognize a kernel panic.
l...

My call would be the amount of polygons it was dealing with put it into a fatal loop that consumed all its insufficient available resources. I agree it could possibly have been resolved by the OS given enough time.

The point of diminishing return in waiting for it to do so was duly reached. Everything saved and backed up. Nix it. It crashed - to anyone but a geek splitting hairs :-)

I've seen an entire ad studio network fried by a lightning strike. Scorch-marks on the walls where the ethernet cables used to be.

[Big Dave]

I had a processor fail on a G5 too. Died just before its fifth birthday. It was good for about 20 crashes on the total.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

I've still got a Commodore 128D... oh wait wrong thread...

[Big Dave]

I've still go a Commodore 128D... oh wait wrong thread...

Did you look at some of those 3D models - how do you reckon it would deal?

[avgas]

5 kp in 7 years within 1k professionals, power user.

i'd call it a good record...

Macs have had their issues hardware wise - the same as anywhere else.
The good ol' imac would overheat, I had 4 fail in 1 year. Conclusion was to run an air-conditioned room that did not exceed 19 degrees.
My II would constantly fail on ram, which meant you had to reboot the whole thing.
Macbook pro's would "drop" chips if overheated (sitting in the bag still on).

However I would still recommend Mac's to new users - for the same reason my wife drives an automatic car. I am lazy a like easy solutions.

You may want to read this good little article.
http://www.technightowl.com/2008/05/...iability-rant/