Linux vs Windows?

[Suntoucher]

Well the main reason MS Office wins here is marketing, and that because most people already have it and have been using it thaey don't want to change... Even though OOo is compatible but only for the basic as soon as you start putting in the heavy macros and stuff... then OOo hasn't a show of being compatible until MS opens its file format fully... and the chances of that happening are slighty less than zero...

Those that start of in OOo have a better probably will never go to MS Office... I use MS office at work and OOo at home



See above people can't be bothered learning another system and way of doing things been using Windoze for 15 years why change... most people look at the short term its actually going to cost a business to change in time and training of the new OS and system... but don't look in the long run that they will save...

Many EU countries bit the dust a few years back and swithed to Linux while short term it cost in th elong run they are now saving money.

Has nothing to do with how good or bad the OS or software is at present it has to do with what people are use to using... and that is slowly changing... my boss now uses OOo at home and said will probably slowly switch all to OOo at work... as it will meet our needs... so attitudes and people opening up for a bit of a change is slowly happening (when I first started here would have been no chance of that... )


Wasn't quoting anybody... just stating a fact...

I was quoting you.

Edit: I just can't empty quote as there is a ten char minimum. So have to write it out.

[avgas]

When comparing XP to 7, I've found XP is more stable.
When comparing 7 to Ubuntu 10.04, Ubuntu is still much more stable.

10 years of development for both has to count for something.
Remember the XP SP0 days - blue screen of death
Remember the RedHat days - #Killall motherfucker I want to shut down!!!!!

I was just pissed of with MSDN/Microsoft for 7 as I basically concluded when I beta tested it.....that its Vista SP3
So rather than fix problems, Microsoft were just selling marketing at you.

[Bald Eagle]

That's all Microsoft sell - marketing. They spell software testing s.a.l.e.s. ffs

[Max Preload]

what pissed me off with apple was being forced to do things their way. ipods as well. Windows, do things your way, and I like pulling it apart.

I've recently been looking at changing to MAC but that's one of the things that puts me off too. That, and the fact I don't even own walk shorts or sandals, nor do I have a beard.

Sure, it's ok if you're using it as a home computer, but for a workhorse you just don't want to be rebooting into Windows on a MAC Pro to do any work (almost everything I need to use runs in Windows and I don't want to add another layer of potential failure points by running VMWARE). A couple of weeks ago I was quite keen on switching but the more I think about it the more I believe it just won't work for my situation.

As for Linux, that's arse too for the same reason - applications.

[SMOKEU]

I've recently been looking at changing to MAC

Macs are gay.

[Bald Eagle]

(almost everything I need to use runs in Windows .

you need a different job then

[Gremlin]

it is true tho. When you're software either in beta, or just out of it, quite simply, almost anything developed I use is windows based, and I regularly dip into the advanced settings

[jonbuoy]

Try PLC programming or flashing firmware on a MAC/Linux. Open Office - free but a bit basic, Office 2007 menu system is far better.

[Bald Eagle]

The end result is this is a Honkawsuzyam thread , each to his/her own.

[SMOKEU]

Try PLC programming or flashing firmware on a MAC/Linux. Open Office - free but a bit basic, Office 2007 menu system is far better.

I've always hated MS Office, I found the text formatting a nightmare to use in Word. OpenOffice is so much easier to use, and it doesn't keep resetting my formatting.

[Urano]

You're not FORCED to use Windows, you choose to use it because it offers you something Linux doesn't.

no, actually it doesn't.
nor it does in respect of osx.

Well it technically does now(Steam now has Linux support) but it plays terribly because of the Linux drivers. Much like it also does on Mac.

oh, ya, sure...
if you "choose to use it" on a computer just to play then it makes a lot of sense.
is exactly the same to buy a busa to go make some trial...

If Open Source is that good, why doesn't it have 94% market share?

because microsoft has stolen, corrupted, fooled, and made ANYthing to reach that shitty 94%.
do netscape/explorer bring something to your mind?

[Suntoucher]

Considering he was saying he was forced to use Windows to play games, yes it does offer something Linux doesn't, games(until recently, but they're very limited). So he wasn't forced to use it, he chose to use it.

Brings something to mind a decade ago, a lot can happen in ten years, look at Apple. Hell, a lot can happen in two years, Intel has the monopoly and it stole, corrupted, fooled and did everything to reach its market share. AMD has done quite a large bounce back in the last two years.

Both created good quality products(albeit I don't like saying that about Apple, I'll still admit it) and as a result their marketshare shot up in the products they focused on.

What's Linux's excuse?

Edit: Linux reminds me of Opera, whining about past events having some irrecoverable effect on their product, when all the competition has moved on, forgot about the past and taken market share from the monopoly, Firefox for example. You don't see Apple complaining about past events, and their market share is growing. Yet Linux(like you above proved) is still crying about ten years ago even when the other competition has proven it isn't irrecoverable. You just have to stop whining and actually work for it, your argument of, "Look what Microsoft did a decade ago." doesn't make me think, "Man, you're right, I'm switching to Linux now."

People will go for the Open Source Alternative when it is the better option, again going back to Firefox.

[Brian d marge]

Apple . have iphone , Never touching an apple product again EVER

Marketing,,,,,,,,,, , Ms was the best thing around years ago , and apple have an awesome marketing machine

linux has well err not much actually, Red hat is probably the biggest

but Horses for courses , once you get used to Linux and realise what IS possible even with the problems it has ( flash on 64 bit is shocking )

I am amazed how anyone would pay good money for , a hyped up product

iphone , ms , or any of those over hyped underdeveloped products

Stephen

ps installed linux mint on my net book , UNDER 20 min including office , had one small hiccup , drop-box wouldn't play fair , a few min googling , and solved . drives , Wifi , everything all good , even flash

[imdying]

I've always hated MS Office, I found the text formatting a nightmare to use in Word. OpenOffice is so much easier to use, and it doesn't keep resetting my formatting.

Millions of users would disagree with you, so PEBKAC.

[Suntoucher]

Apple . have iphone , Never touching an apple product again EVER

Marketing,,,,,,,,,, , Ms was the best thing around years ago , and apple have an awesome marketing machine

linux has well err not much actually, Red hat is probably the biggest

but Horses for courses , once you get used to Linux and realise what IS possible even with the problems it has ( flash on 64 bit is shocking )

I am amazed how anyone would pay good money for , a hyped up product

iphone , ms , or any of those over hyped underdeveloped products

Stephen

ps installed linux mint on my net book , UNDER 20 min including office , had one small hiccup , drop-box wouldn't play fair , a few min googling , and solved . drives , Wifi , everything all good , even flash

Alright, if it was free(in my case it is for Windows and well, all Microsoft Products), what would you choose?