Ebay vs Trade me

[rapid van cleef]

hey, ive been trawling the net looking for candidates for new levers for me bike and ive found this cool site called ebay. ..........ahem

would you believe my suprise when i found a supplier selling biker levers for under 100 bucks inc shipping from china. the EXACT same levers are on trade me from a kiwi supplier for 170 bucks plus pnp.

They are described as being as good as Pazzo, they look cool. and the trade me site has heaps of info on them.

Buy NZ??????????..........................I dont bloody think so!

[BOMBER]

hey, ive been trawling the net looking for candidates for new levers for me bike and ive found this cool site called ebay. ..........ahem

would you believe my suprise when i found a supplier selling biker levers for under 100 bucks inc shipping from china. the EXACT same levers are on trade me from a kiwi supplier for 170 bucks plus pnp.

They are described as being as good as Pazzo, they look cool. and the trade me site has heaps of info on them.

Buy NZ??????????..........................I dont bloody think so!

China are really good at making quality bikes and parts eh so go for it

Anyway Brake levers arent important when they fail

[rapid van cleef]

ok matey. you tell me which levers i should get then, who supplies them and how much and what guarantees they have against failure compared to any imported brands. then compare that to the standard levers on my bike that are not brand new and have been used for almost 30,000km?

the point i was maiking is not the product itself, rather the fact that someone is trying to sell the exact same product here in NZ for 70% more than i can buy from ebay. I'm all for buying NZ etc but what the hell is the point when people are charging excessively for their product?

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

Globlism... will kill local markets... and will continue to do so...

If the NZ market buys from the same place you do they have to put a mark up on else what is the point...

The one thing is if you buy in NZ you still have the gurantee of the NZ consumers act etc... buy off eBay and you have nothing

[avgas]

I have a hunk of metal with a pin in it sitting on my desk.
What type of bike brand do you want stamped into it - whole thing will cost you $20

[rapid van cleef]

Theres a huge difference between a mark up and charging way above and over what i would,deem reasonable. Is it just me or does anyone else think that 70% mark up is too much? id be happy to pay maybe 10-20 bucks more for such an item to keep it local. not 70 bucks more. i dont care about the brand. im not a 'bling' person. i rarely buy brand name goods for anything really. it depends on the item. The actual item in question is irrelvant here, simply a point about people often comment about keeping cash in NZ. thats great, im all for that, but what incentive is there if someone is setting up a business to sel goods here in nz(so they are obviously buying in bulk) then attempting to sell on at an enormous mark up. ridiculous

[bogan]

yeh I find ebay is pretty good, sooner or later they should close the gst loophole to event things out a bit. With huge markup like that, and buying from TM anyway I'd definitely be using ebay.

[nutjob]

If he is actually managing to sell items on TradeMe with a 70% mark up, then good on him! As someone who has purchased plenty of items on Ebay in the past, you always take the risk that the item won't be as described, may turn up damaged, or may not even turn up at all! (I have had several problems with items from China)
Buying from somone in NZ should give you a bit more piece of mind and back up service if there is a problem It just depends how much more you are willing to pay for this.
If you really think that the item is too dear, then just buy it from Ebay and let the man go about his business

[jellywrestler]

The one thing is if you buy in NZ you still have the gurantee of the NZ consumers act etc... buy off eBay and you have nothing

paypal has a reasonable trading policy and refund service

[jellywrestler]

Theres a huge difference between a mark up and charging way above and over what i would,deem reasonable. Is it just me or does anyone else think that 70% mark up is too much? id be happy to pay maybe 10-20 bucks more for such an item to keep it local. not 70 bucks more. i dont care about the brand. im not a 'bling' person. i rarely buy brand name goods for anything really. it depends on the item. The actual item in question is irrelvant here, simply a point about people often comment about keeping cash in NZ. thats great, im all for that, but what incentive is there if someone is setting up a business to sel goods here in nz(so they are obviously buying in bulk) then attempting to sell on at an enormous mark up. ridiculous

are you old enough to drink? Tell me how come when I go on the piss I payt more for a pint of beer in a pub than I do for the same quantity at a wholesaler? Then when I get a taxi home It costs me way more than the petrol used during this trip.
Maybe you can enlighten me with your wise words?

[avgas]

are you old enough to drink? Tell me how come when I go on the piss I payt more for a pint of beer in a pub than I do for the same quantity at a wholesaler? Then when I get a taxi home It costs me way more than the petrol used during this trip.
Maybe you can enlighten me with your wise words?

Have to agree with Jelly a bit here.
If we all walked around just paying for what we want/use......we all would be farmers and going to trademarkets.
70% mark-up is reasonable when you consider the following
take out your 15% GST = 55%
take out any shipping charges (roughly 20%) = 35%
take out any admin costs (roughly 30%) = 5%

So you are only paying an actual profit figure of 5%, kinda scary really. And if a business only grows by 5%.....its still considered as doing well.

[imdying]

Wow, someone is trying to make a dollar... how dare they

Making as much profit as you can, that's business....


However, rapid van cleef, I'm far more interested in why a parasite like you thinks it's ok to support a business based on stealing the hard work of others?

[Jonno.]

are you old enough to drink? Tell me how come when I go on the piss I payt more for a pint of beer in a pub than I do for the same quantity at a wholesaler? Then when I get a taxi home It costs me way more than the petrol used during this trip.
Maybe you can enlighten me with your wise words?

Ebay is akin to having a pub charging wholesale prices right next door with a free drop off service.

[avgas]

Ebay is akin to having a pub charging wholesale prices right next door with a free drop off service.

Or a whore house on the way home from work

[rapid van cleef]

generated dicsusion, which is what this site and any other forums are about. healthy discussions are good, even the heated ones.

and by the way that 70% mark up ive seen was 70% above the retail cost inc shipping, which was almost half of the total cost. I believe there are many companies taking advantage of the fact that NZ is quite isolated and charging a hell of a lot for certain items. which is fine. I will look elsewhere, thats all. All about our right to choose as we see fit

anyway

no one else is gonna worry about paying my bills etc, so I will always go for the best price I can get, taking into account the customer support factor etc


I never said anything about people not making profit. thats a good thing. just weird that some people will happily pay incredible amounts of cash for goods that they can buy elsewhere for exactly the same item at almost half the cost. Like i siad, I wouldnt do it personally, but if you choose to,thats your choice, and thats ok. I just wanted to get a feel for other peoples opinions on it thats all.


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