Nooooooo... that's a factOriginally Posted by Trudes
All good points. Maybe a truer statement is really that politicians are all just arseholes and some are just better liars than others.
Aio ki te Aorangi
Nooooooo... that's a factAll good points. Maybe a truer statement is really that politicians are all just arseholes and some are just better liars than others.
I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!
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ahahaha, I do enjoy a good pun! and no, there are racial traits, but just because somebody af a certain race turns up on your doorstep, doesn't mean they have those traits. If your daughter is into them surely it's worth getting to know them before passing judgement?
yes, but you are in a religious group by choice (for adults anyway), not so with race, meaning religous people embrace the traits associated with thier group, whereas those of a certain race may not have any of the racial traits.
"A shark on whiskey is mighty risky, but a shark on beer is a beer engineer" - Tad Ghostal
Has left the building
Exactly...but in this country it's ok to have a whole political party that promotes segregation in one form or another.
troglodytam extraordinaire
of course, only white people can be racist, didn't you know that.Exactly...but in this country it's ok to have a whole political party that promotes segregation in one form or another.
Anarchic Wild Child
Mate .. I've been smart enough to get to 55-years-old without any kids ...
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
troglodytam extraordinaire
Sounds smart to me
Fully qualified Sifter.
Hahaha...well I'm 43 and haven't built any yet. No plans to either.
The instructions are simple...
You probably can, actually. It's a fine line.
Religious nutters, and Maori like the Harewira family, have a collective attitude. One that in their eyes marks them as being superior, and more worthy, than those who are not in their group.
To define someone as 'maori' may not be as simple as the colour of their skin etc. There are plenty that refuse to fit the stereotype, and are sometimes known as Brown Pakeha because of it.
Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?
Anarchic Wild Child
So .. your kids will be just as smart as mine ..a big fat zero ...
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
Fully qualified Sifter.
My kids would be...an accident!So .. your kids will be just as smart as mine ..a big fat zero ...
Come warm yourself by the fire
I don't see why not. I mean if there can be a whole voting system dedicated to what side of the fence you grew up on, why not a political party that caters to that particular system.Exactly...but in this country it's ok to have a whole political party that promotes segregation in one form or another.
Bit like Busses and Bus lanes.
.....when a subway would have been better
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I see what you're saying, but it still means projecting the traits of a subset of maoris onto the whole population of them and judging them for it, as you would see a maori on your daughters arm long before you recognise him as a brown pakeha.
"A shark on whiskey is mighty risky, but a shark on beer is a beer engineer" - Tad Ghostal
Hardcore Biker
Ol Hone is stuck so far up his jaxi that he can't see the wood through the trees. Unlike the pretext to the horse manure he shrouds, most parents don't have too much to do with who their kids partner up with or Marry.
As with John Key, If my kids, either of them came home with Asian, Island, Maori, Russian or whoever. I wouldn't judge them by there race nor gender.
We might hold concerns of their intentions, but our trust is always in their good judgment and character that we instilled in them.
Sadly, Hone Harawira is blatantly racist and narrow minded. He hold little in the view point or form for any ethnicity other than his own, who I might reinforce and point out are migrants also, with only inhabiting these fine shores for the past 835 years or so. Yes the English treaty was flawed, but alot less so than what would have happened if it were French rule, or heaven forbit left in the the hands of the sealers and whalers......
The English or French crusaders however treated the local ethnicity folk not that much different to the way Maori treated Moriori when they arrived, only as I understsand, no Maori were eatin by the English or French....
In this day and age, if cultures can't form peace and get along off each other benefits culturally together then its going to be a sad hard slog.
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Personally, there is no room in todays society for racism. We are all of the same creed just here through different routes. Ultimately, we had to have come from 2 people so somehow we are all related via around 6-8 millenniums mathematically.
Equal rights to all I say. I am a 5th generation NZer, and I have a chinese friend who is a 6th generation who's forefathers worked in the mines on the west coast of sth island in 1830's. I would say thats long enough to know some shit.
Also, I know that its not fair that you sold a heap of land for some clapped out muskets and some blankets, however its also not fair that my Triumph Speed Triple is no longer worth the 17k I paid for it, and there are now newer betterbikes I could have now for the same price. Regret is a sad reality consequence of poor decision making. If your generations past made some dumb decisions, make better ones.
I am freindly really, I only bite when provoked
Last of a dying breed
Sadly there is not much hope when laws and rules are made to cater for your heritage.
We run a childcare centre. Up until beginning of 2010 all the teachers in training could apply for a study grant to use for study costs from Ministery of Education.
This grant is still available but only for Maori teachers in training. Currently we have three teachers in training. Only the two who have Maori in them were able to apply, not the pakeha girl. They both got $3K each. And please note that we are talking about a grant from the government.
I have always wondered how a "New Zealand European Rugby Team" would be looked at...
Tornado Alley
"One people" and all that... But not for Hone.....I don't know him, not been here long enough to see many of his tirades. But all I can see is a guy saying he'd rather his kids kept to their own ethnic group when it comes to "dating"... He's absolutely right too in the eyes of many people, IF they were to tell the truth... Personally I care not... but in the context of the article, they may as well be discussing a Protestant being invited into a Catholic household (and they can both be White)... there's no real difference. For me, it looks like he's expressing his preference and not dictating what ethnic group his kids can and can't get all interracial with...
The fighting between churches has always puzzled me. Isn't "their" god the same one as "the others" god....? Or am I getting "Lost" again...?
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