Ebay vs Trade me

[Berries]

I shop at Pak'n Save all the time.

You can get powdered milk out of China for 85% less than Pak n Save. Not only do you save money, you help NZ farmers.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

You can get powdered milk out of China for 85% less than Pak n Save. Not only do you save money, you help NZ farmers.

yeah but would your truly want to drink powdered milk from china.... lord knows what other chemicals and power is mixed with it...
http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-sto...chinese-probe/

[Berries]

That was kind of the point.

[DR650gary]

Wow, it is amazing how this often slagged out has progressed from "NZ bike shops ripping us off, Trademe rules (etc)

to "Trademe is a rip off, Ebay rules"

I wonder, is the average Kiwi attitude so crap that people actually will soon think that unless goods are free ( or perhaps we are given a small financial incentive to take goods off traders hands), traders should be put to death.

Can we talk about Lawyers, residential property investors and real estate agents? When it comes to unreasonable fees for services and goods, these people are the scum, not retailers competing in a global market.

Get off your high horse man. I happily supported NZ retailers until I found that they seldom stocked the goods I wanted and ordered them from a supplier overseas when I ordered it off them. Then charged me a massive markup plus the freight. If a retailer wants to compete, then compete, not use license restrictions to gain excessive margins.

The industry that I am in has become international so we have to compete with o/seas suppliers. This has massively reduced our margins over the years but we are now able to compete both locally and internationally.

Protection leads to greed, not efficiency.

But you have all the rights to buy poor quality products at overinflated prices if you wish.

[SMOKEU]

are you old enough to drink? Tell me how come when I go on the piss I payt more for a pint of beer in a pub than I do for the same quantity at a wholesaler? Then when I get a taxi home It costs me way more than the petrol used during this trip.
Maybe you can enlighten me with your wise words?

Because pubs feed on the stupidity of their customers.

[Oscar]

Globlism... will kill local markets... and will continue to do so...

If the NZ market buys from the same place you do they have to put a mark up on else what is the point...

The one thing is if you buy in NZ you still have the gurantee of the NZ consumers act etc... buy off eBay and you have nothing

If the NZ market buys from the same source, they'll be buying a shitload more than me. So even with a mark up I should be able to buy these things at a reasonable price locally - a price that, even if slightly dearer, does not involve faffing about with overseas suppliers.

[DrunkenMistake]

It all still comes down to quality, in the end it doesnt matter if you pay a 70% markup or you go straight to the chinese supplier, the real question you should be asking yourself isnt "Should I buy cheaper becouse im a tight ass" It should be, "Should I buy cheaper, which inturn means cheaper quality, and risk these levers failing on me while im riding" Lets be honest, Even at 50km's on city roads, If you break lever fails you, your gonna do some serious damage to something weither it be yourself or somebody inocent or simply to property, if that were to happen would you be man enough to stand up and admit that your abilty to be a tight ass was more than likely the cause?
Becouse I dont think so,
I would rather pay money for quality, And I would rather support a NZ seller than the suppiler, The way the economy is at the moment, we realy need to be spending within NZ,

It would be like your job, that is if you have one, If your employer turned around and said to you, I am going to cut your hours becouse I can get somebody from overseas to come over and do the same job for 25% of the amount you get paid, not only does that put you out of a job, but it takes money out of the country. If that makes sence.

[DR650gary]

It all still comes down to quality, in the end it doesnt matter if you pay a 70% markup or you go straight to the chinese supplier, the real question you should be asking yourself isnt "Should I buy cheaper becouse im a tight ass" It should be, "Should I buy cheaper, which inturn means cheaper quality, and risk these levers failing on me while im riding" Lets be honest, Even at 50km's on city roads, If you break lever fails you, your gonna do some serious damage to something weither it be yourself or somebody inocent or simply to property, if that were to happen would you be man enough to stand up and admit that your abilty to be a tight ass was more than likely the cause?
Becouse I dont think so,
I would rather pay money for quality, And I would rather support a NZ seller than the suppiler, The way the economy is at the moment, we realy need to be spending within NZ,

It would be like your job, that is if you have one, If your employer turned around and said to you, I am going to cut your hours becouse I can get somebody from overseas to come over and do the same job for 25% of the amount you get paid, not only does that put you out of a job, but it takes money out of the country. If that makes sence.

What a load of bollocks. Everyone, virtually, in NZ who is working is competing against overseas workers. That is why a large volume of services and products are sourced and provided overseas.

Anyone here has a $9.00 brake lever fail.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-308387254.htm

This is a product that I am certain is sourced from o/seas, sold locally at a fair price by a local trader. I have also bought hand guards off them so Isuuppose they are going to fall off and jam my throttle open.

Very little of what we buy and put on our bikes is locally made. Crap is crap and exhorbitant markups are greedy.

Just my 2 cents.

[Jonno.]

It all still comes down to quality, in the end it doesnt matter if you pay a 70% markup or you go straight to the chinese supplier, the real question you should be asking yourself isnt "Should I buy cheaper becouse im a tight ass" It should be, "Should I buy cheaper, which inturn means cheaper quality, and risk these levers failing on me while im riding" Lets be honest, Even at 50km's on city roads, If you break lever fails you, your gonna do some serious damage to something weither it be yourself or somebody inocent or simply to property, if that were to happen would you be man enough to stand up and admit that your abilty to be a tight ass was more than likely the cause?
Becouse I dont think so,
I would rather pay money for quality, And I would rather support a NZ seller than the suppiler, The way the economy is at the moment, we realy need to be spending within NZ,

It would be like your job, that is if you have one, If your employer turned around and said to you, I am going to cut your hours becouse I can get somebody from overseas to come over and do the same job for 25% of the amount you get paid, not only does that put you out of a job, but it takes money out of the country. If that makes sence.

What do you think people are going to do with the money they saved?
This thread is about the SAME products from different suppliers. No one cares about your faggy elitist attitude.

[breakaway]

It all still comes down to quality, in the end it doesnt matter if you pay a 70% markup or you go straight to the chinese supplier, the real question you should be asking yourself isnt "Should I buy cheaper becouse im a tight ass" It should be, "Should I buy cheaper, which inturn means cheaper quality, and risk these levers failing on me while im riding" Lets be honest, Even at 50km's on city roads, If you break lever fails you, your gonna do some serious damage to something weither it be yourself or somebody inocent or simply to property, if that were to happen would you be man enough to stand up and admit that your abilty to be a tight ass was more than likely the cause?
Becouse I dont think so,
I would rather pay money for quality, And I would rather support a NZ seller than the suppiler, The way the economy is at the moment, we realy need to be spending within NZ,

It would be like your job, that is if you have one, If your employer turned around and said to you, I am going to cut your hours becouse I can get somebody from overseas to come over and do the same job for 25% of the amount you get paid, not only does that put you out of a job, but it takes money out of the country. If that makes sence.

If you look up right now, you might see the point going over your head.

Its about getting Product A from Suppliers Local and International. Same product, but international supplier turns out to be cheaper.

I'm afraid that "Support local business" slogan simply won't help these local businesses more. If the price difference is small, like maybe 20-30%, then I can understand, but sometimes its well over double, and comes with a mandatory 3 week wait period. These businesses need to pick up the slack. I mean shit, a tail tidy from a local dealership is 3x the price ($130) than one shipped to me from a shop in the United States.

[pritch]

I support the local businesses. I have also bought bits and pieces from EBay and from TradeMe with no problems. Quite the opposite.

With reference to the original post I bought CRG levers when they were on "special". Not that they were exactly cheap.

I recently needed an accessory for my locally purchased Optimate battery charger, the item was not stocked by the NZ importer. I sent an email to the manufacturer asking for the names of some reputable retailers in the UK. The item was not at all expensive but I received a prompt reply nominating two retailers accepting international orders. There was also some good technical advice regarding a simple test that I should conduct before ordering to be sure the item would work as desired.

My experience suggests that you can make your own luck to a certain extent. Buying cheap stuff from some guy in China, or from his cousin in Auckland, may not be the best way to start?

[ynot slow]

Just had a look at a US online bike store,saw a jacket on closeout for $39.99,when freight added it came to $149.00 roughly $110 postage.Another site for shoei visor and pinlock combo,freight and taxes took it too $157.00US,can get here for $135-150kiwi.

Mind you ordered a pair of osram H4 +80 bulbs for the car,landed(5days) for $37.00kiwi from UK.If you can get the Philips ones (don't try supersheep or crapco,try auto sparky)you told $40-45 each($80-90pair).

[doc]

Well I've just purchased a sidestand today.

Both new
Trademe was NZ$407.00 not including courier

Ebay was NZ$ 79.00 including UPS shipping

You would have to wouldn't ya. It was just a friggen sidestand

Sidestand just arrived. 6 days from USA USPS 1st class international, the cheapest option. Takes the same in NZ sometimes.

I'm more than happy, price, time and effort involved. Off to checkout bling on ebay

[skinman]

Just got Dodge jacket from ebay $37US for jacket $25US postage. Thats approx $124 NZ. Damm sight cheaper than any NZ jacket (also I couldnt find one in NZ).
We are getting ripped off.

[pritch]

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We are getting ripped off.

Not necessarily. There's a load of other threads about that on KB, and some got very heated.

Sometimes there are reasons to buy local, in other instances it may be better to shop further afield. Buying long distance can be risky but if you play your cards right it can work for you.
Whatever works at the time.

Enjoy the jacket