Islamisation

[Edbear]

You don't get it... the Government are pupets...

Is that why they're kicked out every few years...?

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

Is that why they're kicked out every few years...?

and you put in more puppets controlled by the same puppeteers...

Politics

Poli = many
tics = blood sucking instects...

[PrincessBandit]

Is that why they're kicked out every few years...?

....only to be welcomed back for more of the same after realising the other side aren't much better..... swings and roundabouts, swings and roundabouts.

I truly wonder what would happen if Winny suddenly, by some strange serendipitous act, became leader of NZ and we lost the same old same olds we've had for the last decades. (Only wondering from a hypothetical perspective as I'm sure it will never happen).

[Oscar]

You don't get it... the Government are pupets...

What's a pupet?

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

....only to be welcomed back for more of the same after realising the other side aren't much better..... swings and roundabouts, swings and roundabouts.

That’s because both are controlled by the same puppeteers same controller... you want true freedom, true change, cut the strings find the puppeteers but unfortunately the strings lead out of the country…

You want to control the outcome of a game then you control both sides of the game… and your agenda will surely come to play.

People are in for a big shock very soon I can see it happening… the same controllers will be there with more power than before because people are too blind to see it…

Its been building up for years… the chess pieces are in place… and after all the wars and the dust settles… then they will give some peace crap cover story and a solution which people will blindly go ahead with before you know it, you are micro-chipped (which they are already doing over in the states by the way… and we have been doing to our pets for years… because people feel safer how fuck is a micro-chip make you feel safer?) and you yourself will have been brain washed and manipulated into believing that their agenda is the best thing for humanity and they care about you… well they don’t they want to control and manipulate you… all they want is the power of that…

Well if they truly care we would not be in this situation in the first place… Every war, revolution, and freedom fighter war through out history has been manipulated and controlled by the same puppeteers why? Greed, power, control…

People are worried about minor things (heck ACC debarkle… very minor though part of the big picture) but that is what they want you to think.... but stopping the minor makes it harder to get the agenda to come about… people simply don’t stand back far enough from their own little reality that they believe is happening around them… and this has been happened since the beginning of time…

With all the evidence that is out there, people still don’t see it… because the government or the media say otherwise… well they are controlled by the say puppeteers… Media sells the fake cover story to the people and they believe it then government send in troops, pass more laws that take away your freedoms in the name of security… control the health system, food and water supply… Fluoride in the water… used by the Germans as part of there mind control and manipulation program hmmmm… media selling you the cover story and bang… wtf NWO (hey it had to come… but they have been trying to get the NWO in since Rome)

But wait a second Fluoride its good for your teeth… well in Canada two cities (I forget which two) one has it and one doesn’t. The one city that has it in the water supply has more teeth problems than the one that doesn’t ??? go figure that out… One of the chemists that said Fluoride good… is now dead against it… Fluoride bad

The food well where does on start that… so I won’t… same with the health system... sigh

It only takes a few people in the right places to control and manipulate your sense of reality...

QUOTE FROM THE MATRIX MOVIE

"The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it."

Then again I am just a nutcase… I should have taken the blue pill... I might go for a ride…

What's a pupet?

[mashman]

Funny but isn't that most of the population..? Every single person you speak to, and especially on here, is convinced the Govt. is dishonest, insane and intolerable... That's why Governments are kicked out every few years...

but very few think it through far enough to see what that "political strife" does to the country... otherwise we wouldn't be in the constant shit that we're in at the moment ... Kill the head, the body still remains...

From what i've read (not that much) I have found that the Quran is not written in chronoligic order... From what i've read (In chronologic order), the first "round" of Sura's did not encourage violence but moreover encouraged "turning the other cheek" using persecution by silence as a "weapon"...

From what I've read, it wasn't until Mohammed and his followers were "persecuted" out of Mecca (they got pissed off (and voiced it) because the hedonists were worshipping false idols and generally running around not giving a shit in the holiest of cities) that the Sura's of the Quran started extolling the virtues of defensive fighting... after Mohammed was made a political leader of Medina, things started to go pear shaped and "silent persecution" gave way to "violent persecution". In chronologic order, the first 90 of the 114 Sura's are not supposed to have any form of "fighting" talk (I didn't read them all)... What happened to change that?

The holy city of Mecca needed to be saved from the Pagans (any non Allah following, Christians and Jews etc...) and that wasn't going to happen over a chat and a bong and who better to do it than the "hypocritically righteous" that onhce called Mecca their own...

For me, the addition of the new Jihadish Quran Sura's opened the door for the extremists of the day... But hey, nearly every culture gives itself the same "rights" when protecting their homeland...

but that's just 1 reading... I'm sure that there are many that will contradict it, but that's what I "understand" thus far.

[avgas]

Nah, PeterDunne and Brian Tamaki are christian extremists, National and Labour are capitalist extremists.

Haha true.
Are there any Buddhist pollys? And if someone mentions the greens i will piss myself with laughter

[avgas]

and you put more puppets controlled by the same puppeteers...

Scum sucking voters.
I blame you

[avgas]

that is the same for sport, and religion...

fixed it..............

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

Scum sucking voters.
I blame you

fixed it..............

[Winston001]

That’s because both are controlled by the same puppeteers same controller... you want true freedom, true change, cut the strings find the puppeteers but unfortunately the strings lead out of the country… the same controllers will be there with more power than before because people are too blind to see it…

they will give some peace crap cover story and a solution which people will blindly go ahead with before you know it, you are micro-chipped (which they are already doing over in the states by the way…) ....

believing that their agenda is the best thing for humanity and they care about you… well they don’t they want to control and manipulate you… all they want is the power of that…

they are controlled by the say puppeteers… Media sells the fake cover story to the people and they believe it.....blah foam rant.......

Curious. Just who are "they"????

[SS90]

Curious. Just who are "they"????

I must admit, nighthawk comes off as a bit "conspiracy theorist" (I too hate the classifier "they"), but he does make some sense.

Trying to keep it topical (and relivant) I will give an example.

I posted a link in the rant and rave forum, as well as alink in this thread, regarding the conviction of a Muslim woman in NZ convicted of attempting to hijack a plane,

By approximately 9:00am NZ time (the link was from stuff.co.nz) the link was removed from the website, and when I googled it their was no record of it at all, when I searched hard, I found a website called Jihadwatch.com which had a small article about the orginal hijacking, but nothing about the identification of the woman, or the verdict.

It was not an NZ badsed website.

You cannot find any information now when searching on the NZ web news sites either about the woman or the conviction.......

Am I the only one in the world who is frightened by this?

The only logical conclusion one can come to is that the "powers that be" in NZ government have censored this news item from the public, possibly to remove the chance of a public backlash against NZ based Muslims.

Here is the closest thig I could find

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crim...-acquaintances

Th ebasic facts are that we think we are safe in NZ, but how safe are we when important information regarding the sort of people that live down the road form us is with held, seemingly to protect a group of people who's religion commands them to kill us?

[rustyrobot]

...By approximately 9:00am NZ time (the link was from stuff.co.nz) the link was removed from the website, and when I googled it their was no record of it at all...

Found it easily by searching stuff website for "hijack nelson"

http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/n...hijack-attempt

[Berries]

You got me worried there, but Google 'Somali Hijack NZ' and the story is still there, in NZ -

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/new...irst-hijacking and http://www.voxy.co.nz/national/somal...acking/5/60506

and the good old BBC -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11105972

Now I just have to find out who the they are that Nighthawk is banging on about.

[SS90]

You got me worried there, but Google 'Somali Hijack NZ' and the story is still there, in NZ -

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/new...irst-hijacking and http://www.voxy.co.nz/national/somal...acking/5/60506

and the good old BBC -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11105972

Now I just have to find out who the they are that Nighthawk is banging on about.

Doh!

Stupid internet search engines.... but I assue you the link was removed hours after I first posted it.Let us not forget that theis woman will now cost us $90,000 per year to keep locked up...... first class plane ticket "home"..... $4000 maybe?

Perhaps I am coming across as rasist, I assure yoou I am not, I am simply a realist.

NZ is a Mecca (excuse the pun) for pretty much anyone (we are not perfect, but much closer to perfect than most other countries), and I want to reap the rewrds of living a nice happy life when I come home.

If we keep filling it with dependent bludgers like this woman, as well as having huge muslim communities, (let us never forget that the Muslim faith teaches them to kill anyone who is not of their faith...no matter how much the "moderates" try to tell us all otherwise), in the next 20 years, NZ will be as bad as the UK (which, we should be using as an example)

Let's not kick anyone out (well, unless they break the law), let's just be evry selective about who we let into our country from this point on.

As A kid growing up in the late 70's and early 80's, my friends where Maori's, PI's, Indian (both Fijian Indian and Asian Indian, as well as NZ European, and, to me (unlike my Mum and dad), this was normal.

My NZ is multi cultural, and I like it like that.

I just don't want to see a Mosk (I know that is the incorrect spelling) on every street corner, the reality is every single city in the world that has a Mosk on every street corner, is under the rule of Islam..... and that I do not want for NZ's future.

Please everyone do some research on the growing wave of pressure (that us having an effect) to get Islam law regognised in England...... you want NZ to be next?

Good place to start.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle4749183.ece



It's not the people I resent, nor the concept of their religion.

It is the rules by that which they live.....This I cannot accept for my or my familys future.

As Kiwi's, so isolated from the rest of the world, we so often look on at other countries, and critisise...... and, all the time the elemnts that we critisise slowly come to our shores, "blend in", and, with in a few generations, have built metaphoric walls around their communities.

Freedom of religion, choice and so on are fundimental of our way of life.... but not of those freedoms infringe on others rights..... particularly the rights of people that have lived in that country since it's creation , or indeed before it was even a nation.

People can SAY "oh, they are just extremist....... but we don't interpret it like that", but, is that true? and, how can we be sure, how can we "scan" for this..... I say "better safe than sorry"

We would never allow a cult to set up in NZ that, in it's doctrine had "kill all people that aren't us", that would be shut down asap by the powers that be.