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    Braided brake line legality

    Do braided brake lines really have to have a stamp on them? All I can find is that they need to be crimped or similarly machined onto the hose in the VIR manual:

    http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/vi...c-8-brakes.pdf

    (april 2010 version).

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    They used to, at least.
    The other thing to be aware of is the kind of banjo...

    Hose crimped directly on the banjo is legal. Screw in type banjo is not.
    In saying that, YT's bike has screw in type and it gets wofs just fine.
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    odd, it used to specify DOT or similar marking. See note 2 at the btm about not being un done with hand tools. Imdying should be along in a while for the good oil.
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    No marking requirements anymore. The fitting immediately on hose must not be able to be removed with hand tools but banjo can screw into it.
    If it wasn't for a concise set of rules, we might have to resort to common sense!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    Screw in type banjo is not.
    Yes it is, perfectly legal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Max Preload View Post
    No marking requirements anymore. The fitting immediately on hose must not be able to be removed with hand tools but banjo can screw into it.
    What he said

    I can get the numbers if you like (ADR7 and SAE J1702 or something close), but just follow the VIR and that's all you need.

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    Try contacting these people,, there is a link in their page to their New Zealand agents

    http://www.braidedhoses.com.au

    If they are selling braded brake lines to the public, then by law they will have to be compliant with LTSA spec.

    At least you can ask them the spec for NZ roading compliance.

    Most bike enthusiasts already know that by changing the ‘original’ rubber brake hoses to ‘Street Legal’ Stainless Steel Braided Hoses gives the best value for money results.

    This is because rubber brake hose expansion is experienced at the lever; it gives a spongy feel under hard/firm braking and can result in an increase in braking distance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Preload View Post
    If they are selling braded brake lines to the public, then by law they will have to be compliant with LTSA spec.
    Which law and what spec?

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    Quote Originally Posted by imdying View Post
    Yes it is, perfectly legal.
    Perhaps the law changed? I do know that first time I ran YT's bike through a wof at OnRoad (before they were swallowed by VTNZ) the tester showed me a set of photos of types allowed/not allowed. YTs was on the not list, but he said as far as he was concerned, if there were no leaks etc it was all good...
    Quote Originally Posted by Subike View Post
    If they are selling braded brake lines to the public, then by law they will have to be compliant with LTSA spec.
    Only for road use, and that decision is up to the rider, not the parts shop. Things can be legal on the track, anyway...
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    Perhaps the law changed?
    Long time ago, maybe 6 years? Basically, they were hit over the head with some simple logic... if it isn't good enough to screw an banjo into a crimped fitting, then it's not good enough to use a banjo bolt period.

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    well I think the problem was with sacrificial olive type fittings people would undo the fitting to realign a twist & do them back up, but they were a one time shot. I have heard of two failures like this. New olive every time if so equiped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by imdying View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Max Preload View Post
    If they are selling braded brake lines to the public, then by law they will have to be compliant with LTSA spec.
    Which law and what spec?
    Oi! I didn't say that!
    If it wasn't for a concise set of rules, we might have to resort to common sense!

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    Thanks everyone. The reason I asked was I got a set of Hel lines from the UK which boast street legality anywhere in the world but when they came they had no markings and from what I had read here I assumed they needed stamps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subike View Post
    This is because rubber brake hose expansion is experienced at the lever; it gives a spongy feel under hard/firm braking and can result in an increase in braking distance.
    Only if you're comparing old fucked rubber hoses to brand new new braided hoses which is what most people are doing
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    I suspect the reason that most people notice such a difference with braided lines is the fresh fluid they put in on the change. Do the same with your stock lines and you'll be equally impressed if the original fuild was any older than 2 years.

    But the SS lines are sure purdy

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