Ducati quiting wsb

[eelracing]

Stoner's head seems fucked!

Nah man that's just Italians for ya...when everything is sweet they would give you the shirt off of their backs,but they can turn on ya if you aint a team player and Casey is a no brash Aussie afterall.

If Spies has proved one thing (Mladin,Wsbk)and now how he has taken to MotoGP...he's a fighter.
Reminds me of a young Doohan.

[roogazza]

Stoner is still the fastest guy I've ever seen ride a motorcycle...but his head seems fucked!

Welcome aboard ! LOL ! But I'll give him next year on the Honda to prove it either way.
I'm hoping Rossi has Number 10 in him, in Red (and yellow).
I have it from one source only so far, that Burgess is going with him as of yesterday, you heard that ? G.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I can see you you're coming from but it's too early to draw any real conclusions there, I think and I hope Spies has got what it takes to pull off a championship or two, he keeps proving that he's an extremely exceptional talent. Not unlike a lot of those guys though.. He's the 5th Alien..

Spies is going to be a contender sooner rather than later. He seems to have overcome his headfuck at the grip level of new tyres that he commented on repeatedly early on in the season. Proving to himself he can run at the front was probably his biggest issue, and he's done it. Next year, full factory team, a years further experience, he'll be winning a race here and there without a doubt.

Nah man that's just Italians for ya...when everything is sweet they would give you the shirt off of their backs,but they can turn on ya if you aint a team player and Casey is a no brash Aussie afterall.

If Spies has proved one thing (Mladin,Wsbk)and now how he has taken to MotoGP...he's a fighter.
Reminds me of a young Doohan.

I'm a huge Spies fan. I think he's an animal. I'm just not sure anyone has an answer for Lorenzo's speed and consistency. Can't wait to see what happens next season though. If Stoner gels with the Honda it'll be fireworks all round.

[Mental Trousers]

Why would you remain in WSBK, when in two years time you can put more bikes on the grid in MotoGP (Moto1)?

MotoGP doesn't sell bikes. There's a proven link between winning on Sunday and selling bikes on Monday in production based racing.

While money is always a factor I'd suspect the withdrawal has more to do with the trend in all formulas of requiring motors to do longer and longer periods of use before replacement.
It's always been a problem keeping the twins together at this performance level - getting the required power from fours is a lot easier and stress levels are lower too.

I wouldn't be surprised to see them come back in a few years with a four....

Exactly. It's a little surprising that Ducati aren't going to go down fighting. But it wouldn't surprise me if they suddenly announced sometime that they're developing a V4

Purely because I think that Lorenzo is too fast for everybody right now...and he'll be around for a while baring serious injury.

What I find interesting is whether Lorenzo has the ability to develop a bike. Rossi and Burgess are the number one reason the M1 is the leading bike in the paddock. Pay particular attention to the Yamaha's at the start of next season.

Stoner is still the fastest guy I've ever seen ride a motorcycle...but his head seems fucked!

Spies is awesome...but I can't help but feel his timing is bad. It's a rough time to arrive in Moto GP right now!

Kevin Swantz is the fastest I've ever seen on a bike, faster than Stoner.

Spies won't let that sort of thing mess with his head. After all, he spent a number of seasons going head to head with Matt Mladin in the AMA. If that doesn't teach you a thing or two about how to keep your head nothing will.

[Crasherfromwayback]

What I find interesting is whether Lorenzo has the ability to develop a bike. Rossi and Burgess are the number one reason the M1 is the leading bike in the paddock. Pay particular attention to the Yamaha's at the start of next season.

I think he'll be fine. He's had the bike well set up without Rossi's settings. Sometimes better than Rossi's managed to set his up by the look of it.

Kevin Swantz is the fastest I've ever seen on a bike, faster than Stoner.

He sure was fast. But I've never seen him on the lock stops at 240kph.

Spies won't let that sort of thing mess with his head. After all, he spent a number of seasons going head to head with Matt Mladin in the AMA. If that doesn't teach you a thing or two about how to keep your head nothing will.

I agree with that. Mladin was a hard cunt.

[Mental Trousers]

He sure was fast. But I've never seen him on the lock stops at 240kph.

You don't see Stoner doing this sort of stuff

[Crasherfromwayback]

You don't see Stoner doing this sort of stuff

Couldn't view the second one...but nothing that flash about the first one. Anyone can draft another rider mate!

[onearmedbandit]

Schwantz over Stoner any day. Watching Kevin wrestle that RGV500 around, out braking everyone, saving slides on his knees, side by side at 200mph at Hockenheim. And although the championship he won was not done in circumstances that he would have liked, he thoroughly deserved it.

[Crasherfromwayback]

And although the championship he won was not done in circumstances that he would have liked, he thoroughly deserved it.

No argument from me on that one!

[White trash]

Kevin Swantz is the fastest I've ever seen on a bike, faster than Stoner.

Ahem!!! I think you're forgeeeeeeeting someone..........

Ask Roogazza how phenominally fucken fast I am mate.....

[Mental Trousers]

Ahem!!! I think you're forgeeeeeeeting someone..........

Ask Roogazza how phenominally fucken fast I am mate.....

We all know you're a farken legend Jimmy, but the rest of the world doesn't!!

[Oscar]

Ssshhhh don't tell WSBK or BMW and Aprillia will be next.

BMW have already tested their Moto1 chassis.

[Oscar]

MotoGP doesn't sell bikes. There's a proven link between winning on Sunday and selling bikes on Monday in production based racing.

That's an interesting call.

In the short term you're probably right (although the number of Repsol Honda's and Vale Yamaha's they've sold would seem to contradict you). However in the long term the success of companies like Honda and Yamaha is linked to their GP success since 1960.

Notwithstanding that, even if it doesn't sell bikes, it sells image and a shitload of everything else from FIAT 500's to Spanish Cell Phones. It is where the money is.

[slowpoke]

MotoGP doesn't sell bikes. There's a proven link between winning on Sunday and selling bikes on Monday in production based racing.

Dunno 'bout that, the hype about various road bikes lifting technology straight out of MotoGP is a huge selling point. And not everywhere is like NZ: we pay a fair bit of attention to WSB but elsewhere in the world MotoGP is the main show with WSB very much the poor cousin.

Kevin Swantz is the fastest I've ever seen on a bike, faster than Stoner.

Funny, he never really struck me as super quick, more like a man riding beyond his and the bikes limits in an effort to keep up with everyone else. He was bloody good at riding over the limit but I just got the impression that Lawson, Rainey and co were able to ride faster easier. Beattie did pretty well on the RG too so the bike can't have been too far off the pace.

Spies won't let that sort of thing mess with his head. After all, he spent a number of seasons going head to head with Matt Mladin in the AMA. If that doesn't teach you a thing or two about how to keep your head nothing will.

Yep, if there's one thing Spies has proved it's that he's got the ability to keep improving.

[Mental Trousers]

Dunno 'bout that, the hype about various road bikes lifting technology straight out of MotoGP is a huge selling point. And not everywhere is like NZ: we pay a fair bit of attention to WSB but elsewhere in the world MotoGP is the main show with WSB very much the poor cousin.

Mate, my microwave oven has technology in it derived from NASA's space programmes. Secondary and tertiary benefits are impossible to quantify in dollar terms so they aren't used as justification to spend crap loads of money. For the space programme technological advances were used to sway the public to support it but the primary aim of landing people on the moon was to beat the Russians and be number 1.

MotoGP is a lot more like Formula 1 in that it generates prestige/reputation that helps overall, but it's extremely difficult to put a dollar value on it even though profits from secondary and tertiary benefits can amount to many times the original cost.

That's an interesting call.

In the short term you're probably right (although the number of Repsol Honda's and Vale Yamaha's they've sold would seem to contradict you). However in the long term the success of companies like Honda and Yamaha is linked to their GP success since 1960.

Notwithstanding that, even if it doesn't sell bikes, it sells image and a shitload of everything else from FIAT 500's to Spanish Cell Phones. It is where the money is.

ie prestige and reputation, which then help sell other products.