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    I think that this is indeed a big Monet for Rossi, and it is fair to say that he possibly took a pay cut (at least initially) so that Ducati had the budget to mount a successful championship bid.

    Dropping WSB team level involvement is a pretty clear sign.

    It is all about domestic sales for Ducati in my opinion, when you go through Italy, there are just so many Yamaha Rossi replica bikes, from scootermatics, 50's and 125,s, 600's and r1's..... That must be choking Ducati's corporate and national pride.

    "Vale" branding is as popular as ever, and slowing no sign of slowing down (hell, he could afford to ride on merchandising and win bonus's for 2 years, and retire on that alone..... I wonder if he indeed is doing something like that..... Riding only for mechandising and win bonus...... And perhaps a couple 'o million if he wins the championship, as Ducati will have to pour quite some €'s into the team if they have a hope of pulling off some sort of victory.

    I feel the reason that Ducati are taking this massive risk, is the same reason we don't see Kiwi's in the seat of a motogp bike... Domestic sales.

    NZ has 4 million people, and if even 20 percent of the population gave a toss about the motogp, it would not be enough revenue to justify having a Kiwi rider, where as Italy... Probably 50 percent of the population care..... And they have somewhat of a larger population than NZ.

    As Spain do not produce a motogp bike, they're quite content to have a Spanish rider a Japanese bike..... There is no alternative. But I am sure that there has been pressure from many sides to have a good Italian rider on an Italian bike..... I think the last was Capi, and as the US market is so big, Ducati keep Hayden on.... I think if Rossi,Burgess, and the rest of the team can work their magic on the Ducati, Hayden will come good again, he is showing flashes of form, and the Yanks still love him.

    It's all about sales, and in particular domestic sales for Ducati...... yamaha do a roaring trade their, based on Rossi's results.....

    I expect that Rossi will indeed be a contender, and also that Ducati will introduce a sports bike, price comparable to the R1 (which, by far is the most expensive Japanese liter bike out there, possibly based on the development costs), which will have the Italians swapping their rice burners for pasta boilers in droves.

    Combine this with increased spectators at events like Imola and SanMarino- That will help the Italian economy more than anything else.

    Think about it, IF (fantasy only) Britten emerged with a motogp bike, and it was ridden by anyone else other than a Kiwi, how would we all feel about that, if it won, we would all say "theta should have had a kiwi riding" if it lost, we would all say "if a Kiwi had been on it, we would have won"

    For the Italians, national pride and motorcycles go hand in hand.

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    Stoner?

    So I have only just watched the Indy race, and I'm sure Stoner was about to break into tears, whinging that everyone was racing too hard at the start of the race, that he got knocked back and couldn't make it back up. Even the commentators remarked that it is actually racing, not knitting.

    Sure any of the current motorbike racers out there are 'harder' than me, but I can't imagine any of the races from the 80's or 90's complaining like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onearmedbandit View Post
    Sure any of the current motorbike racers out there are 'harder' than me, but I can't imagine any of the races from the 80's or 90's complaining like that.
    You've got a short memory. Doohan used to always complain that Creville would follow him then try to pounce on him on the last lap. Rossi has often bitched about others trying to get a tow off him in qualifying etc etc. They all moan and bitch mate. It's not hard to understand why they get so hot under the collar when you realize just how much is at stake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    You've got a short memory. Doohan used to always complain that Creville would follow him then try to pounce on him on the last lap. Rossi has often bitched about others trying to get a tow off him in qualifying etc etc.
    Yeah but they never looked like they were about to start bubbling for the mummy.........
    Vote David Bain for MNZ president

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    Quote Originally Posted by White trash View Post
    Yeah but they never looked like they were about to start bubbling for the mummy.........
    Pah....you homo's are all just jealous of the gorgeous wee thing Stoner gets to hang out of!

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    Quote Originally Posted by onearmedbandit View Post
    So I have only just watched the Indy race, and I'm sure Stoner was about to break into tears, whinging that everyone was racing too hard at the start of the race, that he got knocked back and couldn't make it back up. Even the commentators remarked that it is actually racing, not knitting.

    Sure any of the current motorbike racers out there are 'harder' than me, but I can't imagine any of the races from the 80's or 90's complaining like that.
    I must've missed that. He seemed to be in there for the first bit ,but faded when others started making a move. Maybe he was at his limit (which he does from the get go usually) and had nothing left to up the pace ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by White trash View Post
    Yeah but they never looked like they were about to start bubbling for the mummy.........
    You must spread rep around etc etc.

    It did though didn't it.

    Sure I do remember Doohan having a bit of a whinge too. But while it might be an Ozie thing to whinge, at least Doohan was able to maintain some dignity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    You've got a short memory. Doohan used to always complain that Creville would follow him then try to pounce on him on the last lap. Rossi has often bitched about others trying to get a tow off him in qualifying etc etc. They all moan and bitch mate. It's not hard to understand why they get so hot under the collar when you realize just how much is at stake.
    Doohan's problem with Criville was him trying pinch his set up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roogazza View Post
    I must've missed that. He seemed to be in there for the first bit ,but faded when others started making a move. Maybe he was at his limit (which he does from the get go usually) and had nothing left to up the pace ?
    After his crash he was interviewed back in the pits.

    Anyway, after Biaggi left Honda I heard he left his 'Big Book of Excuses' behind with them. Maybe Honda will let Stoner have a look at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    Pah....you homo's are all just jealous of the gorgeous wee thing Stoner gets to hang out of!
    Who, you mean Lorenzo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    Doohan's problem with Criville was him trying pinch his set up.
    Sure fucked him up when he went back to the screamer engine!

    Quote Originally Posted by onearmedbandit View Post
    After his crash he was interviewed back in the pits.

    Anyway, after Biaggi left Honda I heard he left his 'Big Book of Excuses' behind with them. Maybe Honda will let Stoner have a look at it.
    I've always thought Stoner simply says it how it is. Be interesting to see what Rossi has to say when he rides the Ducati.

    Is it true Rossi told Stoner this weekend something like..." Casey, you're not riding the Ducati hard enough".

    Stoners reply..."Well your team mate is beating you".

    How many people have tried to ride the Ducati and failed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SS90 View Post
    Who, you mean Lorenzo?
    Nah...they're not on the same 'team'!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    Is it true Rossi told Stoner this weekend something like..." Casey, you're not riding the Ducati hard enough".

    Stoners reply..."Well your team mate is beating you".
    It's not quite up to the standard of the dialogue in "The Importance of Being Earnest", is it?

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