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    Quote Originally Posted by candor View Post
    Contrary to popular belief society doesn't crumble when Police let that portion of small fry who're non compliant go.
    Is that so?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_windows_theory
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoristheBiter View Post
    What about this?

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/new...at-both-killed

    There are stupid drivers/riders on the road. And if we do become "road safety freakshow" then we can sell the show back to the US and make them watch our shit drivers.
    Lemmings was my thought on that link. Well I suppose u-tube commercialisation might be an upside. Blood sells.
    Re "broken windows" theory it doesn't apply well here as regards minor traffic infringements and rampant chases over them, the outcomes of treating a wee speed creep as a broken window show that. But in NY broken windows Policing is applied to road safety (seen as violent offending and a homicide feeder) but differently.... more proactively and smartly.

    Those who do not deserve to drive are decisively separated from the activity. With high as drink drive penalties where injury occurs (lock up throw away key) and high certainty of car confiscation for this (cars are displayed in large fields as a constant advertisment especially Mercs and BMWs), and extreme care taken to prevent people circumventing bans eg unable to rego new cars etc - it has among the lowest drink drive deaths per capita in the world with a 0.08 limit like we have showing limits are moot.

    As 45% of current crash ending chases here are of suspected impaired drivers a similar broken windows approach to impaired driving could be a major chase reducer. It would begin with a register like for sex offenders and equally close monitoring of people under disqualification to ensure compliance by all involved depts. A bit of forward thinking, a stitch in time etc.

    Lets be clear- I'm not blaming Police - there is no place for blame as it just a hang up and thwarts discussion of prevention. The Q as I see it is what can Police do via approach to better minimise the carnage caused by F-wit fugitives. Cops are clearly in an inhospitable environment to being able to Police constructively, but as that won't change in a hurry isn't that all the more reason to get in place the best possible chase policy as triage?
    I say just take the experts advice (Alpert, IPCA) and try being more sophisticated for a month. Then knock rough edges into shape if there are any greater problems than exist with the present approach. The current use of urgent driving is disproportionate a response to the threat most runners pose. Police admitted to the Herald 75% are commenced over non criminal matters. So its traffic stuff triggering responses that offer no safety gain, in too many cases. Redundant action - off purpose. When issuing tickets is more dangerous than not doing, why insist on it stat?

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    And if it came policy to 'we won't chase anyone' and as a result there was more high speed hooliganism by lame-brains with half a licence who increasingly crash and kill their own passengers or kill other people who will wear the blame??
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    It hasn't happened anywhere else that policy was tightened. Not talking about a no chase policy regardless - just a much much more restrictive one. IMO it can't be the sole change though, gotta look at a lot of surrounding policy / legislation that is upping running today etc. Many good points on this thread and odds are and I hope the bureaucrats have printed out & are poreing over it looking for ways to advance career. Checks time.

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    I'm sure the bigwigs @ LTSA and the Ministry of Transport have KB as their homepage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berries View Post
    According to the ODT the Dunedin CBD cameras will have ANPR capability when they get commissioned soon. Be interesting to see whether they use it or not.
    Just in case anyone wants to ride through the centre of Dunedin while their rego is on hold - http://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/12...pture-assaults

    Top tip - keep it on the back wheel.

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