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**Lou Girardin** · 26th November 2003, 08:20

The LTSA has come up with a 'road safety' quiz we can do when we relicence or reregister our bikes/cars etc.
I heard some of the questions this morning, you'll need a good knowledge of LTSA propaganda to win, eg. At 120 km/h your chances of having an accident are; 2, 3 or 4 times greater?
I have a question,
If you staff a road safety authority with inexperienced academics, career opportunists and political toadies. You will end up with a totally irrelevant drain on taxpayers money. True or false?
Lou

**What?** · 26th November 2003, 08:28

True, Lou. So very, very true.

**bluninja** · 26th November 2003, 08:55

I heard they are spending $4 million on the scratch cards and prizes......and that on top of the 'Don't worry be Happy' ads costs. I guess at least they are trying something new (and non punitive)....and it's cheaper than making road improvements.

TTFN

**750Y** · 26th November 2003, 17:04

Originally posted by Lou Girardin
... At 120 km/h your chances of having an accident are; 2, 3 or 4 times greater?

... At 50 km/h your chances of having an accident are; 2, 3 or 4 times greater if You can't drive for shit in the first place?

there was a case recently of an 'absolute dickhead' 73 yr old man who was appealing against a dangerous driving conviction. "Evening Post"
apparently he pulled out of a supermarket carpark running down 2 pedestrians 1 a pregnant woman(or woman with a pram i forget)
anyway...
his defence was that "he was only going slowly, because the sun had blinded him".
the judge stated that he was "Not entitled to amble along blindly until he struck something"
the guy should have received a flogging as well as the conviction.

**k14** · 26th November 2003, 19:10

This is just a complete load of shit!!!

Where did the LTSA get a spare $4 million to waste on this crap??? Gee i wonder!!!

If they spent a little less time running around with their fingers up their arses and actually started doing some work, then we actually might not feel so pissed off when we get a ticket for doing 55 in a 50!!

They will probably come out and say it was a succes because next week one person less will be killed on the road than the same week last year.

Yet another total and utter bullshit money waster.

**Nouseforaname** · 26th November 2003, 19:28

They could at least take us all out for dinner first before they fuck us up the ass

I cant wait for dec 23rd, cos then i have to get my rego, im gona love going in and paying for a full years rego in 5cent pieces. I know im gonna have to wait 4 ages while they count it but it will be worth every second

**wkid_one** · 26th November 2003, 20:08

Hey Nouse - just be warned - they don't have to accept it - they will likely ask for you to go away and bring a cheque back. Good Idea - it has been done before - they will politely tell you to fuck off

**SPman** · 26th November 2003, 21:13

How does knowing the road code make you a safer driver?

Answers on the head of a needle . please!

**Nouseforaname** · 26th November 2003, 21:42

Originally posted by wkid_one
Hey Nouse - just be warned - they don't have to accept it - they will likely ask for you to go away and bring a cheque back. Good Idea - it has been done before - they will politely tell you to fuck off

Yeh i had a feeling that might happen, but i will try never the less

Hopefully i get someone on their first day of work who dosnt know any better.

How the fuck is a scratch card gonna bring the road toll down and make everyone a safer driver?

**MikeL** · 26th November 2003, 22:32

Scratch 'n win is a silly idea, but looking on the positive side the silliness of it might just possibly be a sign of desperation and a tacit admission that the "big stick" tactics haven't actually been the great success that has been claimed. Interesting logic, of course, in official statements at various times. If the road toll seems to be coming down, it's because of the heavier penalties and greater enforcement. If it starts to rise, it must be because penalties and enforcement are not rigorous enough. Perhaps at last some cretinous bureaucratic brain has realized that we can't be fobbed off indefinitely with illogical arguments and meaningless slogans.
Or am I just being naive?

**jrandom** · 27th November 2003, 07:47

Originally posted by SPman
How does knowing the road code make you a safer driver?

Answers on the head of a needle . please!

well, give the road code its due... if everyone (including our favourite un-NZ-licensed immigrant drivers) knew it back to front, there *would* be less accidents. The give way rules and wotnot would work if everyone followed them.

Case in point - I got a dirty look from a female driver t'other day going through a roundabout. She pulled half a car length over her double lines before slamming her brakes on. I was going straight through, she was coming from my left. As per the RC I didn't indicate as I entered the roundabout, then started indicating left as I approached my exit (at about the same time she braked). I have no idea what was going through her head, but I suspect she failed to understand the meaning of my indicating. Presumably because she hadn't read the road code in the last ten years or so and it had leaked out of her brain to make room for yesterday's episode of Neighbours. Or something.

Nothing wrong with drivers knowing the road code. The problem is (a) drivers NOT knowing it and (b) drivers not understanding the physics of a 2000kg mass moving at 100kph and (c) drivers not developing the trained responses to provide appropriate control inputs in all possible situations.

Hang on... have I just been trolled?

**k14** · 27th November 2003, 08:15

I think that is the best example of people not knowing the road code. I go to uni in christchurch, which has lots of roundabouts. I always do it the way the road code says, but i fell like i am the only person who ever does it!!

**SPman** · 27th November 2003, 12:28

Originally posted by MikeL
....Or am I just being naive?

Yup!

Originally posted? by jrandom

Hang on... have I just been trolled?

**Big Dog** · 27th November 2003, 12:35

Originally posted by wkid_one
Hey Nouse - just be warned - they don't have to accept it - they will likely ask for you to go away and bring a cheque back. Good Idea - it has been done before - they will politely tell you to fuck off

So pay at a post office they are also trading as a bank and as such are required by law to exchange any legal tender for any legal tender at the request of a customer.

The real flaw to your plan is that the only person who will experience any disatisfaction at your Method Of Payment is the teller. They are hardly likely to voice your concerns to the local mp.

now if we organised a few thousand people to all do this on the same day around the country that might have a small impact if you actually told anyone why these acts of terrorism occur.

I have used this MOP before and it is very effective when you are punnishing the person directly and even better if you take one out!