Another fatality

**Genie** · 3rd September 2010, 15:42

To many of you this will sound callous and heartless....though I am neither of them.

When your time is up..it's up! Can't do much about.....it's what you do before hand that truely matters.

It would be so nice if we could choose how and when we die but we don't. If we could die peacefully in bed surronded by our loved ones...would that be the perfect way to die? I think not.

I know I shall die.....when I do, and if I were to die by some horrorific accident such as this, I'd like for all to learn a lesson from it....not get bogged down in the what if's but to learn and move forward, enjoying every day you are blessed with.

We get one life...enjoy it. Strive for hapiness, treat others with kindness, love your family...

My sympathies to all the family and friends of this man and also to those who attended this horrific accident.

**dangerous** · 3rd September 2010, 16:09

Just read the 1st post, ya know moderen tractors have transmiters for SWS, which are picked up on most radar detectors... ya'd think the police and ACC would get togeather to save lives rather than ban detectors and use the SWS system in NZ.

**PrincessBandit** · 3rd September 2010, 16:14

Originally Posted by Berries

And totally impractical. People turn right across single and double yellow lines every day. I have yet to see anyone charged for it.

That was my point exactly. Some people seem to have missed the irony.

**Grubber** · 3rd September 2010, 16:20

Originally Posted by Genie

To many of you this will sound callous and heartless....though I am neither of them.

When your time is up..it's up! Can't do much about.....it's what you do before hand that truely matters.

It would be so nice if we could choose how and when we die but we don't. If we could die peacefully in bed surronded by our loved ones...would that be the perfect way to die? I think not.

I know I shall die.....when I do, and if I were to die by some horrorific accident such as this, I'd like for all to learn a lesson from it....not get bogged down in the what if's but to learn and move forward, enjoying every day you are blessed with.

We get one life...enjoy it. Strive for hapiness, treat others with kindness, love your family...

My sympathies to all the family and friends of this man and also to those who attended this horrific accident.

Excellent! Not much i can add to this.
All you other fellas listening?

**PrincessBandit** · 3rd September 2010, 16:40

Originally Posted by YellowDog

e.g. Over brow of hill and not breaking speed limit. See stationary tractor too close. Not safe to pass. Brakes. Lose control on mud. Bang.

Sorry Andrew, but that is just as speculative as any other comments which have been posted here.
I still don't see why people are jumping on the tractor driver when he was only going about his business as he has every right to do, including making a right hand turn into a driveway. Regardless of what lines were painted on the road it's not like he was attempting a u-ey or pulling right into some random part of the opposite side of the road.

Some people on here need to realise that jumping on the band wagon of "blaming the other person" is not appropriate. Until all the facts are known then blaming anyone in this situation is pointless. We don't know whether the tractor had been sitting there for any length of time before attempting the turn, we don't know whether the rider was attempting to go around the tractor or observing the speed limit, we don't know whether there was sun strike or any other mitigating factors involved.

As for "why did the police want to speak to any witness regarding the bike leading up to the crash?" (asked by someone else); well, I'd think that was pretty obvious - the police need all the facts they can garner to make an assessment of the situation. Ignoring what happened with BOTH vehicles prior to the crash would be irresponsible.

**Naki Rat** · 3rd September 2010, 17:00

Originally Posted by Grubber

Your a fuckin muppet mate. don't make accusations such

as this until you know the facts. I have seen nothing yet that would allow me to come to that conclusion.

Should be "you're a fuckin m..." but it appears your spelling skills are at a similar level to your local knowledge of the area in question (I rode that road 24 hours earlier). At 100kmh the motorcyclist would have had fak all choices when confronted with a lane full of tractor, or do you suggest slowing for every brow?

This happened on the main road north out of Taranaki and could just as easily ended with a tractor munted by a B-train. It was not a clever manoeuvre on the tractor's part.

**PrincessBandit** · 3rd September 2010, 17:07

Originally Posted by Naki Rat

This happened on the main road north out of Taranaki and could just as easily ended with a tractor munted by a B-train. It was not a clever manoeuvre on the tractor's part.

Serious question here: What was he meant to do then?

**Berries** · 3rd September 2010, 17:19

Originally Posted by Naki Rat

or do you suggest slowing for every brow?

You are supposed to -

Road User Rule 5.9 (1) A driver must not drive a vehicle in a lane marked on a road at such a speed that the driver is unable to stop in the length of the lane that is visible to the driver.

Nobody does it. I don't do it. I lost a friend when he came over a crest to find someone pulling across his lane towing a horsefloat. Forget farm driveways though, so many intersections are located beyond crests, or around corners, that it is a wonder this kind of thing doesn't happen much more often.

**Naki Rat** · 3rd September 2010, 17:37

Originally Posted by PrincessBandit

Serious question here: What was he meant to do then?

Continue on further beyond the brow where oncoming traffic had more warning? But I suspect he like hundreds of other agri vehicles has to take the risk he did as part of their daily routine, but this time he just got unlucky

**miloking** · 3rd September 2010, 17:43

Originally Posted by Kickaha

You must be related to DB because you come across dumber and dumber every time you post, Katman has never advocated banning motorcycles

Anyone who relies on "luck" is an fucking idiot

...i know very well Katman doesnt want motorcycling banned or changed in any way for worse...its called "being ironic" for the slower individuals. He just comes across that way by his extremist views

Also i didnt say i rely on luck...but not surprised that you missed that as well.

**imdying** · 3rd September 2010, 17:47

Originally Posted by Naki Rat

do you suggest slowing for every brow?

Yes, and corners that are blind.

**PrincessBandit** · 3rd September 2010, 17:48

Originally Posted by Naki Rat

Continue on further beyond the brow where oncoming traffic had more warning? But I suspect he like hundreds of other agri vehicles has to take the risk he did as part of their daily routine, but this time he just got unlucky

Sooooooooooo, he has to go beyond the driveway, with his fat arse tractor and somehow do a 72-point turn in order to swing around back to the entry he wanted to go into?