Gear safety message

[phill-k]

Neither Did I actually, I didnt accuse a single entity, a business or brand.

I did say that there are many Traders on TM selling their Jackets and specifically noting they have Back Protectors, even calling them CE approved, this is not true.

I did this as Im genuinely concerned about it, and the potential for an injury by someone believing they have the protection yet dont.

I havent even promoted anything I may do.

I dont know why people get all in a fuss and specifically accusational towards me, Hell if I said their was a Bad Slip on the Coro loop I sure you wouldnt have a problem with a safety message being posted, is the difference that Im in the motorcycle industry? OMG you mean if I know what im talking about then I definately should say nothing................how does that work in the world??

Do you eat Hell Pizza after they advise the market of smaller Pizzas from Pizza Hut?
Do you Eat Whitakers after the Cadbury Palm controversy
Do you drive a Car which hoists itself higher than the competition by showing the market the other models lackings??

Probably I would guess

as much as I love Bikers the industry and the people in it (mostly) my god there are some precious puppies.

At the end of the day make your own purchase decisions on what you buy, Im sure now you will consider this warning none the less.

p.s thank you for all the positive rep, Im pleased most of KB actually understands my thread

Firstly you did accuse as you stated many traders - how many and who are they?
You do promote what you do as its on the bottom of every post you make.
The examples you quote have all substantiated their facts when making claims about their opposition, by not naming your accused one is unable to actually substantiate your statements.
I don't have an issue with you being concerned, however as you keep expressing your concern do something about it - Contact Trade me and consumer affairs with your evidence. In NZ at least we still hold dear the belief that one can face ones accuser, by not naming the accused you either are afraid or perhaps can't really substantiate your claims - Name on here the traders you say are breaching the fair trading act, then we can all see and avoid.
p.s. I don't give a rats arse about red bling - i like the colour actually.

[phill-k]

Didnt really want this to be about our products, note you raised it but anyway Im
Not sure who you are talking about, we usually dont use TM very often, seen you raised it, this isnt our market.
and regarding spec and price Can you please do a study and find a better Specd brand new jacket on Trademe for $420 (our top spec being the EDGE) when you do let me know so I can up spec it further.

I wait patiently.

I am not questioning the quality of your products, to me at least it is clear that you supply quality product at reasonable prices, why, you have an avid following and I have read many posts about same. However you have in the past entered into heated debate on technical subjects with other suppliers on here.
My point in getting involved in this debate is purely to request you present all the evidence rather than just some, and if you are genuinely concerned to take the necessary action to have these rogue traders shut down for the good of all of us.

[Taz]

Calling someone a peasant isn't PC you know Quasi. They should be called "homeless people".

Not all peasants are homeless. Just maybe not owning land of their own.

[MsKABC]

Not all peasants are homeless. Just maybe not owning land of their own.

Yeah, I know - I just couldn't think of the term I was looking for at that particular time. Call it "baby brain".

[Quasievil]

if you are genuinely concerned to take the necessary action to have these rogue traders shut down for the good of all of us.

Okay will lodge a complaint tomorrow.

Dont ya love KB

[Crazy Steve]

Quasi can you size me up for some new gear.....All my current stuff is wrecked..

Crazy Steve.

[Quasievil]

Quasi can you size me up for some new gear.....All my current stuff is wrecked..

Crazy Steve.

Yup but you just tease me lol

[Rogue Rider]

LoL, as far as I can see you didn't slag off or bag anyones product, you simply made an objective and constructive point on a very genuine issue.

I back up what Quasi has said, if you are serious about back protection, and or you do racing, then you do need to get a specialist piece of back support equipment.
From history, most retail places can source them, and some carbon fibre gore-tex products from France and Europe have made their way here.
Quasi sells ome too................................... for a reasonable price too i am sure...... any specials Quasi? for those tempted by the pitch.
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[Rogue Rider]

Okay will lodge a complaint tomorrow.

Dont ya love KB

I don't think it will validate, unless you remove 95% of what the shops sell as well. The products being sold are the same as have been sold for years....
Some of the products that are imported to have rated crash protection, others are foam with polycarbonate casing exterior.
Just inspect and check out what you get. I have basic imported brand that I got in myself, and have had some offs and no big deal. In saying that, people still die in car crashes wearing seat belts and helmets too.................

Just remember, everything depends on circumstances, if you race, yes, definately gear up, other wise use your discretion depending on the practical use. Foam is fine in some applications, though I prefer the polycarbonate ones myself.

[puddytat]

[BOMBER]

I don't think it will validate,

Be fun to see

[DMNTD:Me]

So he can once again get 'bagged' for dissing other peoples products!?

I think this is a very valid point and in fact I would not be walking, or possibly even alive had I not been wearing a back protector back in November 2007.

I had a bad crash and ended up under the rear of a car. I was wearing a Sidi Back Protector at the time and I'm sure this is the only reason I am still walking. along with many other breaks and injury's, I busted my back in two places, T7 and T9 in the crash but both breaks were stable...had I not had a protector on I'm sure at the best I would be permanently in a chair.

I'm very passionate about this issue for these reasons and I also think Quasi is right in his "one man crusade" to defend the quality of good motorcycle protection.

How's ya bum bum?

[ynot slow]

LoL, as far as I can see you didn't slag off or bag anyones product, you simply made an objective and constructive point on a very genuine issue.

I back up what Quasi has said, if you are serious about back protection, and or you do racing, then you do need to get a specialist piece of back support equipment.
From history, most retail places can source them, and some carbon fibre gore-tex products from France and Europe have made their way here.
Quasi sells ome too................................... for a reasonable price too i am sure...... any specials Quasi? for those tempted by the pitch.
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My take,Quasi puts a thread on buyer BEWARE,ask questions of seller (of safety standards,quality etc)and if they're not satisfactory replies maybe go elsewhere,be it bike shop or internet sellers.After all it is safety we all want.

And naming is rubbish,rule 1 of sales is never diss the opposition by name,comes across as nit picking,but at same time promote the benefits of your product,with product knowledge,which he has given us,he isn't saying buy mine,not others exclusively.

Similar to me,for years my boss sold exclusively sleepyhead beds,I went to numerous product courses at the sleepyhead factory,and saw first hand opposition comparrible priced beds broken down,seeing other makes being inferior and often more expensive gave me enough knowledge to sell my product against opposition.

So much so when my boss decided to sell other beds due to change in suppliers in his buying group with beds,I left.How could I hold my head and say xyz beds were inferior to sleepyhead,then try to sell xyz brands against sleepyhead,knowing the construction was inferior.This in a town of say 10000 people,and having been with firm for nearly 20yrs.

Yes I have a bit of Quasi gear,mostly samples and other(cheap bastard me,but also canny,good gear cheap) but also have named gear,chillout,alpinestar,gaerne,neo also.Back protector is next,like the idea of inserts and will ask questions on armour etc,and what standards come with it.

[DEATH_INC.]

Okay will lodge a complaint tomorrow.

Dont ya love KB

You don't have to justify yourself Q, anyone that actually knows ya will know you're legit.
If they don't want to listen leave 'em to it.
BTW, a lot of the chinese 'companies' will attach whatever approval no's you (or they) want to the products they sell without actually testing them....it may not entirely be the sellers fault.

[Eyegasm]

Didnt really want this to be about our products, note you raised it but anyway Im
Not sure who you are talking about, we usually dont use TM very often, seen you raised it, this isnt our market.
and regarding spec and price Can you please do a study and find a better Specd brand new jacket on Trademe for $420 (our top spec being the EDGE) when you do let me know so I can up spec it further.

I wait patiently.

Wow, $420 is a great price. I'd buy one.

Wait I did. Although the Vengeance cost more at the time (Paid $495) + custom fit charge + 10 week wait...

Just can't wait for it to arrive... Getting antsy... Summer is almost here...

But I guess... I'll just wait patiently.

Eyegasm