Gear safety message

[Quasievil]

I work in Procurement and work with different types of markets going to tender and managing contracts/ categories for services from IT to Facilities to buying BMW's for parliament. I have seen it all and TBH when/if vendors ever indulge in such behaviour I tend to hear alarm bells.

Sorry if my opinion doesn't float your boat.

Such Behavior ?

Either you cant read or your agenda surfaces again, perhaps you need to stick to your tenders and leave those that know about what they are talking about to highlight safety concerns that are ACTUALLY REAL

unbelievable

[Gremlin]

Going back to chest protection (because I think most hopefully know the merits of back protectors by now) I think its equally important as back protection.

Not only does it come in handy when you're about to hit Mr Road against your will (I landed on my chest, and only felt light bruising, after a low side, dropping from almost a metre above ground), but it also protects against suicidal wildlife.

Ask gijoe. We were in the South Island, going along a straight around 110kph. Bird comes in from front right, impacting so hard with my chest I was pushed back in my seat a bit, felt a thud, and gijoe's account was that it exploded on impact. Not a single bit of pain, bruising etc. Been happy with my Knox back and chest protection several times over, so much so, that all future gear is bought to take the armour into account, size wise.

Now I'll sit back and wait a few months/years until people start talking about CE approved garments, ie, jacket and trousers, not just the armour. My jacket is here, waiting for the pants...

[Quasievil]

Was Talking to Steve (cant think of his KB name) at Motott the other week, he reckons he got hit by a Peasant, it damn near killed him, they Doctor said a couple of inches to the left that would have been it.
So yes to the chest protection.

[schrodingers cat]

I call bullshit. It you really care about safety you'd be selling these

[Quasievil]

I call bullshit. It you really care about safety you'd be selling these

LOL isnt that Carver ?

[Gremlin]

I call bullshit. It you really care about safety you'd be selling these

nonsense, what kinda of abrasion resistance would it offer?

If he really cared, he would sell Rukka... oh wait... he does

[phill-k]

Bollocks.

Do your homework, ask questions of the seller, and ask to see pictures of the so-called back protectors. If you don't get appropriate answers, move on.

If Quasi named names, he would most definitely then be accused of bagging the competition. Sounds to me like you are just setting a trap for him.

Actually not bollocks I did not come on here and accuse anyone of selling goods not designed for their intended purpose (the law)
If someone has an issue with someone else's commercial practise and wishes to go public on it, they have a responsibility to both the consumer as well as the other trader to actually substantiate their claims, I for one actually believe in due process and fairness, unless evidence of his claims is delivered he should lay complaints with the authorities responsible for breeches of advertising. On here he should at the very least post links to the auctions he refers, quoting as he did in a recent post without actual links is like having toilet paper in a loo but it being out of reach.
It has nothing to do with setting traps, if he names the traders then we can all see the evidence and support him in his endeavours, otherwise it just looks like the same all same all punch up that happens on here from time to time.

[MsKABC]

he reckons he got hit by a Peasant

Calling someone a peasant isn't PC you know Quasi. They should be called "homeless people".

[schrodingers cat]

nonsense, what kinda of abrasion resistance would it offer?

Think laterally. Fill it with helium... You need never hit the ground

[MsKABC]

Actually not bollocks I did not come on here and accuse anyone of selling goods not designed for their intended purpose (the law)
If someone has an issue with someone else's commercial practise and wishes to go public on it, they have a responsibility to both the consumer as well as the other trader to actually substantiate their claims, I for one actually believe in due process and fairness, unless evidence of his claims is delivered he should lay complaints with the authorities responsible for breeches of advertising. On here he should at the very least post links to the auctions he refers, quoting as he did in a recent post without actual links is like having toilet paper in a loo but it being out of reach.
It has nothing to do with setting traps, if he names the traders then we can all see the evidence and support him in his endeavours, otherwise it just looks like the same all same all punch up that happens on here from time to time.

I still think you're talking bollocks. We'll have to agree to disagree.

Quasi hasn't "accused" anyone - an accusation requires a name as far as I'm concerned. It was a friendly warning, basically a "buyer beware".

[Gremlin]

Think laterally. Fill it with helium... You need never hit the ground

must be dud helium in that fella's suit then... looks like he's pretty firmly fixed to the ground. How would you uh... test its still ok, without, y'know, testing it?

[schrodingers cat]

He has a hi tech version with embedded cannisters and a rip cord. It is very clever if a bit french and therefore unreliable and smelly

[phill-k]

I still think you're talking bollocks. We'll have to agree to disagree.

Quasi hasn't "accused" anyone - an accusation requires a name as far as I'm concerned. It was a friendly warning, basically a "buyer beware".

Well you must either have a very poor understanding of English or didn't read his original post.

Oh sorry just re read it myself and you are right, he didn't accuse anyone, he was just trying to denigrate his successful arch rival on trade me who actually offers the same quality of product at better prices, with unsubstantiated pointless drivel, it wasn't a friendly warning as without actual detailed information of the "offenders" how the hell is anyone going to know who he wants you to be aware of.

[Quasievil]

Actually not bollocks I did not come on here and accuse anyone of selling goods not designed for their intended purpose

Neither Did I actually, I didnt accuse a single entity, a business or brand.

I did say that there are many Traders on TM selling their Jackets and specifically noting they have Back Protectors, even calling them CE approved, this is not true.

I did this as Im genuinely concerned about it, and the potential for an injury by someone believing they have the protection yet dont.

I havent even promoted anything I may do.

I dont know why people get all in a fuss and specifically accusational towards me, Hell if I said their was a Bad Slip on the Coro loop I sure you wouldnt have a problem with a safety message being posted, is the difference that Im in the motorcycle industry? OMG you mean if I know what im talking about then I definately should say nothing................how does that work in the world??

Do you eat Hell Pizza after they advise the market of smaller Pizzas from Pizza Hut?
Do you Eat Whitakers after the Cadbury Palm controversy
Do you drive a Car which hoists itself higher than the competition by showing the market the other models lackings??

Probably I would guess

as much as I love Bikers the industry and the people in it (mostly) my god there are some precious puppies.

At the end of the day make your own purchase decisions on what you buy, Im sure now you will consider this warning none the less.

p.s thank you for all the positive rep, Im pleased most of KB actually understands my thread

[Quasievil]

he didn't accuse anyone, he was just trying to denigrate his successful arch rival on trade me who actually offers the same quality of product at better prices

Didnt really want this to be about our products, note you raised it but anyway Im
Not sure who you are talking about, we usually dont use TM very often, seen you raised it, this isnt our market.
and regarding spec and price Can you please do a study and find a better Specd brand new jacket on Trademe for $420 (our top spec being the EDGE) when you do let me know so I can up spec it further.

I wait patiently.