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    I, for one, do not welcome our new overlords

    So we now live in an effective dictatorship:
    http://www.legislation.govt.nz/bill/...LM3233004.html
    http://publicaddress.net/default,684...ighth-he-is.sm
    http://www.kiwipolitico.com/2010/09/...honour-system/

    I'm sure we can trust Gerry..... yeah right.

    So, when's the march up Queen St? Democracy under attack? Anyone? Or are there different rules for National?
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    Yes and no on this one....

    Yes it's a tool to kick our local bunch of disorganised fuckwits into action - or bypass them altogether which is not a bad thing - I've moaned enough elsewhere about Selwyn Council by now.

    No in that any appeal processes seem to have got left out...Gerry's minions know better than you the home owner. This definitely does not appeal.
    No in that it's being run by the Nats - which out here effecively means Fed Farmers who couldn't give a shit for anyone who chooses to live in the country but isn't a farmer...

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    The torys are like a pack of dogs fighting over a carcass called 'the people',

    Its been like that for ages, pre industrial or around then it really took off.

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    I don't understand how it is undemocratic to repair Christchurch as soon as possible.
    Wait a minute, now I understand. Its because it is Christchurch and not Auckland. :slap:
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    It will be interesting to see how keen they are to hand these emergency powers back once the immediate crisis is over. I'm guessing they'll find all sorts of excuses to hang on to them...or am I just cynical?

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    Quote Originally Posted by admenk View Post
    It will be interesting to see how keen they are to hand these emergency powers back once the immediate crisis is over. I'm guessing they'll find all sorts of excuses to hang on to them...or am I just cynical?
    There is an expiry date, which may be earlier than that stated.

    Section 15:
    Term of office of appointed commissioners
    (1) The term of office of an appointed commissioner ends when the commissioner vacates office or on a date no later than 1 April 2012, whichever occurs first.

    Section 21:
    Expiry and revocation
    This Act expires, and any Order in Council made under section 6 is revoked, on the date that sections 6 to 16 cease to apply.
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    [QUOTE=Jantar;1129860091]There is an expiry date, which may be earlier than that stated.

    Let's just hope they stick to it. I'm all in favour of decisive action when when it's needed (like now), I'm just a little bit distrusting of politicians (can't think why?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rainman View Post
    So we now live in an effective dictatorship:
    Democracy under attack?
    We always have, its always been a party led dictatorship, "democracy" is just a word they use to make you think you have some sort of power, but when was the last time you had a say? I know I didn't want this anti-smacking bullshit, or ETS, or policies from the Maori party or Green party, I did't want to have ACC money extorted from me either etc. etc. etc.

    So you would have to have a democracy before it could be under attack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jantar View Post
    I don't understand how it is undemocratic to repair Christchurch as soon as possible.
    No problem at alll ...


    Quote Originally Posted by Jantar View Post
    Wait a minute, now I understand. Its because it is Christchurch and not Auckland. :slap:
    Wrong ... it's a Government ceasing more power for itself ... nothing wrong with the stated reason why ... there usually isn't (See Adolf Hitler's reasons for ceasing power ) ... what's wrong is the late-night under-urgency seizing of a range of powers well outside the norm ... and as has been said .. will they give them up ?

    I'm cycnical enough to think No .. but Idealistic enough to hope Yes ... so I worry about a Government ceasing extraordinary power for itself ...
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    Pfff, April Fools day 2012 snigger... Does that mean the Nats could claim that because the country is in a State of Emergency, that they will postpone the election? An amnesty for the looters and slimey fucks that went to get theirs?

    That's one hell of a scarey bill indeed. Ah well, we'll get used to it...
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    There are a lot of individuals in NZ with a huge chip on their shoulders.

    This morning watching GoodMorning, one correspondent to the show stated that the PM; John Key was useless as all he did was visit ChCh, that he should have picked up a shovel and helped. What a misguided and ignorant knob the writer was.

    JK has shown fantastic Leadership during this recent and past situations. I don't agree with all of their decisions but I'm not a single issue voter.

    IMO - All Politicians are as much use as tits on a bull, will say one thing and do the other, promise the earth and deliver nothing. Much like a companies IT department lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    That's one hell of a scarey bill indeed.
    But the Greens and the Labour party voted for it...

    I'm not worried in the slightest about conspiratorial abuse of the powers contained in the bill. The potential for complete cock-ups on the other hand...
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    Arrrgghh the sky is falling the sky is falling the sky is falling!

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    Although I'd like to add, being referred to as an 'overlord' sounds to me like the best reason so far for being a politician.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jantar View Post
    Its because it is Christchurch and not Auckland. :slap:
    Thinking about how Auckland would cope after similar events to which Canterbury has suffered makes me wonder how typical jaffas would react, even though we live on an area riddled with volcanoes.
    Certainly the infrastructure would be hit hard. I hate to think about the number of houselolds that might be affected.
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