Revolting teachers!

[Robert Taylor]

The education system turned to shit when men were kicked out, and school community bottle drives stopped.
Feckin lesso's took over and that was that.
Fact.

Agreed on all counts, bringing back caning wouldnt go amiss either.

Teachers arent a special group of people where their proffession is unique in being irksome and challenging, they also arent unique in wanting to be paid more. But there isnt more available and they should accept the fact.

Like I said earlier there are other pressing priorities like reinstating a half credible Air Force after the arch lezzo of them all messed with it

[MikeL]

Like I said earlier there are other pressing priorities like reinstating a half credible Air Force after the arch lezzo of them all messed with it

Absolutely. It really hurts when the lezzo-leftist conspiracy takes away our boys' toys.
Reinstating a half-credible strike force is vitally important to our self-image. Mind you, fully credible would be better. After all, the Skyhawks were a bit slow and just slightly obsolete when we bought them. How can a nation have any self-respect without a couple of squadrons of supersonic phallic symbols thrusting proudly through the air?
O.K. the cost of keeping a couple of them flying for a few hours a month would have bought several hospitals or hundreds more police, but people who say that really have no sense of priorities...

[avgas]

O.K. the cost of keeping a couple of them flying for a few hours a month would have bought several hospitals or hundreds more police, but people who say that really have no sense of priorities...

Actually the grounding costs are 50% that of the flying cost.
So we were better off with a strike-wing than with paperweights.

Found out last week that Aus has just placed an order for new jets..........bastards gonna invade us now.

[mashman]

If anyone is in Porirua and wanting a chat with the PM, he's wandering cobham court at the moment...

[merv]

If anyone is in Porirua and wanting a chat with the PM, he's wandering cobham court at the moment...

What is he looking for a fight with those girls, or chasing school kids back to school or something?

Oh nah that's right he's helping out supporting his candidate in the by-election. Does she support improved conditions for gijoe and his fellow teachers I wonder?

[mashman]

What is he looking for a fight with those girls, or chasing school kids back to school or something?

Oh nah that's right he's helping out supporting his candidate in the by-election. Does she support improved conditions for gijoe and his fellow teachers I wonder?

there were police in attendance for that very reason I reckon... Just heard, from a colleague, that he's in Max, ladies clothes apparantly... something to throw at the lady brawlers should they come for him perhaps

[gijoe1313]

Today I am on a go-slow - I have not tried to push out the boundaries of student learning and have merely defaulted to the end of term programme.

We are watching movies in class!

The programme for my junior classes today was :

Pirates of the Carribean
Torque
Bro'town

And before I get pillorised, Torque is a good case for me to explain to my earstwhile charges how not to ride motorbike! (but they don't care, they just think it's cool! )

I think last period shall be ... assessments for my seniors! I may have a revolt on my hands!

[Number One]

There is probably nothing standing in your way to "voluntarily" subscribe toward the teachers pay now as matter of personal choice!

yeaaaahhhhh nnaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

I considered going into teaching (kids) then I remembered myself and other kids I decided FUCK THAT! hahahahaa also personally I work for money...not just love or a spirit of service so i would've ended up being one of those teachers that threw whiteboard pens and chairs at the little darlings...it all went down hill when teachers were no longer allowed to strap them I reckon

Doubt it.
Considering the fact that education levels have statistically dropped when teachers income has increased.

I wonder if actually the kids are just getting dumber

.....mwahahahahaaaaaaa that'll get the pre-pubes going.

[avgas]

I wonder if actually the kids are just getting dumber

It is wiser to say nothing at all, and have people doubt your abilities. Than to say something and remove all doubt.

Kids these days just talk too much.

However I have noticed that very few try and nut out problems these days - it seems many just have a "tack-the-answer-don't-understand" motto about them.

When did learning become simple "broadcast teaching" ?

[SVboy]

You answer is a generalisation based on what? Your experience as a teacher? Be lovely if "simple broadcast teaching " was all it took now days, but that is not the reality in teaching these days. We can all get nostalgic for the "good old days", but our society has changed in such a diverse and difficult manner that teachers have to learn, adapt and teach in ways that are intensive ,skilled, and up to the minute. Well done me! I appear to answered your previous post asking the reason why teachers feel they are worth more in $$ and conditions.
Dont believe me? As I have said previously-TRY OUR JOB!

It is wiser to say nothing at all, and have people doubt your abilities. Than to say something and remove all doubt.

Kids these days just talk too much.

However I have noticed that very few try and nut out problems these days - it seems many just have a "tack-the-answer-don't-understand" motto about them.

When did learning become simple "broadcast teaching" ?

[oldrider]

You answer is a generalisation based on what? Your experience as a teacher? Be lovely if "simple broadcast teaching " was all it took now days, but that is not the reality in teaching these days. We can all get nostalgic for the "good old days", but our society has changed in such a diverse and difficult manner that teachers have to learn, adapt and teach in ways that are intensive ,skilled, and up to the minute. Well done me! I appear to answered your previous post asking the reason why teachers feel they are worth more in $$ and conditions.
Dont believe me? As I have said previously-TRY OUR JOB!

Try our job? Not a good argument sorry!

Voters don't need to have been politicians to be able to judge political performance!

Personally I had 16 years as a teachers customer, most of us have had something similar, we don't need to "try your job", we have all suffered the consequences as teachers customers!

Experience enough in my estimation!

There are always more followers than there are leaders in the world, just as there are fewer excellent teachers (who are worth their weight in gold IMHO) than there are filling the ranks of teaching mediocrity!

How anyone could ever claim collective equality in teacher performance is beyond comprehension IMHO!

[avgas]

You answer is a generalisation based on what? Your experience as a teacher?

Nope - being a tutor/trainer
Used to be a case of me just being the poly-filla......

But lately my poly-filla, has been used for foundations.......

Not really blaming secondary school teachers for this though, as many of the clients have tertiary education as well.

But while I agree with what you have said about the world changing.......does this justify that you should be paid more? If so, why specifically? What are the problem points? Do you do more work since this has changed? (I think this is the point your trying to make)
Validate your argument.

[Smifffy]

Everyone's job evolves, due to changes in technology, methods or laws etc.

[Squiggles]

Personally I had 16 years as a teachers customer

That would've been in the early 50s? 34 years before corporal punishment was banned in schools (89) 40 years before the internet explorer was released (95) Steve Jobs wasnt even 1yo!

Are our own experiences enough to make calls on the teachers of today?

[scracha]

It's a shame there aren't loads more men in the teaching profession - both primary and secondary. Good male role models are important for both male and female students.

The whole education system seems geared towards the needs of female students, female parents and female teachers. Shite pay aside, one of the main reasons I got out was all the PC bullshit. Couldn't call a spade a spade. Sometimes you'd just want to tell parents their kid was a first class little shit in need of some parental attention, instead of referring to ADHD or other bollox behavioral disorder the local glorified social workers had dreamed up to appease mummy and daddy. And don't get me started on working with other teachers. Christ, about 1/4 of them were fantastic, 1/4 average and the other 1/2 couldn't get a job at McDonalds. Unfortunately it seemed to be the most useless that ended up heading departments. I'm all for better teacher pay. It's a stressful job. However, it should be performance related and based on peer reviews. Get rid of the dross and pay the good ones what they deserve.