Who just watched the article on Closeup about the teen done for dangerous driving?

**Sketchy_Racer** · 2nd May 2006, 19:21

I don't know what feelings you guys have about it, But from what I saw on T.V The police have FUCKED UP big time.

There is SO much evidence, from Two investigators and witnesses, yet the judge still said that the teen driving was in the wrong.

I don't understand how if you are driving down a piece of road and you hit something that pulled into your lane makes you in the wrong.

I can't believe this!!

And then the fucking police wonder why the NZ public have such a negative attitude towards them.

Not all the police are in the wrong and i know "Not all police are like that"
But a police officer is in complete and utter wrong from the evidence shown on T.V and the justice system blames the innosent guy.

I Now believe that this country has some serious fucking problems and its going to snowball if we don't get someone with 2 fucking brain cells into the leadership.

I now await all Red rep for posting my opinion of this country.

Fucked off,
-RG100!!

**nadroj** · 2nd May 2006, 19:24

Any comment without dropping yourself in it Scumdog?

**Sketchy_Racer** · 2nd May 2006, 19:31

sorry I don't understand what you said/wrote?

**mdb** · 2nd May 2006, 19:32

I didn't see the article mentioned but do remember the infamous speeding motorcade incident trial (last year). All I would say is that what is presented on TV isn't what happened. It isn't the first time and it won't be the last ... TV (papers etc), generally only present one side of the story (regardless of the facts).

**hXc** · 2nd May 2006, 19:37

Facts are facts and evidence is evidence. Is it possible to fabricate the sort of evidence that was presented? I don't see how the young fella could have been at fault. Another nail in the coffin of public respect for the lying blue line.

**Sketchy_Racer** · 2nd May 2006, 19:42

Yep sure are HXC

From the skid marks etc i saw on the tv, it looked pretty damn obvious who was in the wrong.......

Its bloody rediculous

**Sketchy_Racer** · 2nd May 2006, 19:44

Originally Posted by mdb

I didn't see the article mentioned but do remember the infamous speeding motorcade incident trial (last year). All I would say is that what is presented on TV isn't what happened. It isn't the first time and it won't be the last ... TV (papers etc), generally only present one side of the story (regardless of the facts).

Yes that is true, They probably didnt say that the teen was speeding and drunk. But im sure if he was the police would stamp their feet about it

**oldguy** · 2nd May 2006, 19:48

didn't see the program. but as far as I know if you run into the back of someone reguardless of the fact he cut you off your to blame,I think they see it as he should have been able to stop in time, if the other person hit him I think thats a different story, still could be wrong, can't help but feel sorry for the guy

**Sketchy_Racer** · 2nd May 2006, 19:54

From the 'evidence' shown, the police holden rodeo was parked in the grass on the left hand side of the rode. He then (according to the evidence) went to make a U turn and turned into the path of the teen driver. The teen driver hit him in the drivers door at a 90degree angle. Definatly not a arse end.

**sAsLEX** · 2nd May 2006, 19:55

Originally Posted by oldguy

didn't see the program. but as far as I know if you run into the back of someone reguardless of the fact he cut you off your to blame,I think they see it as he should have been able to stop in time, if the other person hit him I think thats a different story, still could be wrong, can't help but feel sorry for the guy

The cop was on the left hand side of the road and pulled a U turn in front of the oncoming teenager.

Two experts have stated that the cops statement that he was in the centre of the road indicating to pull in to the driveway was rubbish and that he must of been on the left verge, and also two eyewitnesses also confirmed they had seen the cop on the verge but the Judge dismissed all this evidence and took the word of the Cop.

**mdb** · 2nd May 2006, 19:55

Originally Posted by RG100!!

Yes that is true, They probably didnt say that the teen was speeding and drunk. But im sure if he was the police would stamp their feet about it

Don't forget the tut tut'ing and finger wagging that would go on!

**oldguy** · 2nd May 2006, 20:02

Originally Posted by sAsLEX

The cop was on the left hand side of the road and pulled a U turn in front of the oncoming teenager.

Two experts have stated that the cops statement that he was in the centre of the road indicating to pull in to the driveway was rubbish and that he must of been on the left verge, and also two eyewitnesses also confirmed they had seen the cop on the verge but the Judge dismissed all this evidence and took the word of the Cop.

Wow he hit a cop!!!! your always going to lose that one.

**chanceyy** · 2nd May 2006, 20:04

Originally Posted by sAsLEX

The cop was on the left hand side of the road and pulled a U turn in front of the oncoming teenager.

Two experts have stated that the cops statement that he was in the centre of the road indicating to pull in to the driveway was rubbish and that he must of been on the left verge, and also two eyewitnesses also confirmed they had seen the cop on the verge but the Judge dismissed all this evidence and took the word of the Cop.

and independant experts at that... also since the kid was only 17 could not remember the accident, wanted to plead gulity, but his g/friends father knew that the evidence was not correct and sort 1 independant expert, and then tv crew took it to another independant expert ... two experts can not be mistaken esp based on evidence only ... also what did the judge say .. something along the lines of the cop is of higher integrity than the 17 yr old kid .. or words basically to that effect

justice .. what blardy justice

**Jantar** · 2nd May 2006, 20:08

I didn't see the programme. Where did it happen, and who was the judge?

**eliot-ness** · 2nd May 2006, 20:10

The most damning part IMO was the fact that the accident happened 25mtrs past the driveway the cop was supposedly turning in to, The skidmarks proved that. Also, isn't there an offence called 'turning right without due care'
Whatever, the officer's word was believed and the young guy branded as a liar, the witnesses mistaken, and the experts evidence discounted. I will be very surprised if the police go ahead with their claim for damages. As they are quick to point out. The case is now closed.