Pulled over for noise but have a wof. What's the deal?

[AllanB]

Correct re certification - $150 in Christchurch. The chap here said he gives you a sticker to put on the bike - under seat etc.

He takes photos etc as part of the certification and notes up a description of the muffler etc.

In the event a certified pipe that has not been modified after the cert he has a full record to dispute any ticket etc.

I have however heard a complaint or two regarding his db reading as he is down a back section surrounded by concrete walls that reverberate the sound off them!

I do have to say that in Christchurch I have noticed a reduction in the numbers of really cars since the laws introduction.

[davereid]

I read and understand your first post just fine. A LVV plate attached to an exhaust is no guarantee that it hasn't been dicked with later.
I'll admit to having trouble with your post above...

Red is just pointing out the procedure. Like number plates, VIN numbers, and drivers licences it can be forged-tampered-beaten-avoided by anyone with the interest to do it.

The problem for authorities is, that as they increase the number of hoops to be jumped thru to get a legitimate result, it becomes easier to use an illegitimate route !

[Gubb]

Society doesnt respect you because of the bike you ride.

It's got nothing to do with your wagon or pipes.

Crap. That was my only remaining hope.....

[sinned]

The less noise from a cage the better. Why not fit the standard exhaust and do without the grief? However, I love the sound of a Ducati

[SMOKEU]

The less noise from a cage the better. Why not fit the standard exhaust and do without the grief? However, I love the sound of a Ducati

How can one not appreciate the sound of a V8 or an RB?

[red mermaid]

And you also have to produce the certificate which has a diagram of the certified exhaust set up.

I read and understand your first post just fine. A LVV plate attached to an exhaust is no guarantee that it hasn't been dicked with later.
I'll admit to having trouble with your post above...

[MSTRS:Me]

But what I am saying is, no matter certificates etc, in the real world on the road side, there is no way to know whether a can has been internally modified since said cert was issued. Pretty hard to deconstruct a 'sealed' can, no? And even if a cop carries a dB meter (they don't?) how will he duplicate the testing conditions set down in law?

[avgas]

Interesting,so the WOFs not worth the paper its printed on eh,didnt give me a ticket nor direct me to a testing station just told me it would be a good idea to sort it before getting a ticket,buggered if i know everyone ive told about cant understand why he would have bothered as its not loud at all,jesus i am 48 years old not 18 and have no need for an offensively loud car.He was parked up talking to another cop and i had stopped at a compulsory stop then accelerated (slowly) towards where he was yapping,possibly he was just showing off to the other fella,dunno.Weird though.The thing sits pretty low and was waiting for him to start on that but said nothing.

No ticket.
Does not count for shit.

Let him have his little power trip and simply ignore him.

[jahrasti]

No ticket.
Does not count for shit.

Let him have his little power trip and simply ignore him.

Why do you say that he is on a power trip? He could be trying to educate hence no ticket.

Oh thats right the Police aren't allowed to do that

[Banditbandit]

Why do you say that he is on a power trip? He could be trying to educate hence no ticket.

Oh thats right the Police aren't allowed to do that

Naaa ... the cop was power tripping ... Yes they are allowed to educate - they have special officers tasked to do that .. the ordinary road side cops power trip ...

I'll bet he was short ....

[jahrasti]

Naaa ... the cop was power tripping ... Yes they are allowed to educate - they have special officers tasked to do that .. the ordinary road side cops power trip ...

I'll bet he was short ....

I call bullshit. When the law changed at the end of last year, I told a number of people that I had spoken to about the new requirements. I am not a traffic cop, I am front line, ride bikes and can put up with boy racer cars (can't say they flick my switch).

I can think of two cars off the top of my head, rotors actually that were fucking loud.
I spoke to them in the CBD where I had stopped them at different times. I gave them the benifit of the dought (even though I was 99.99999% sure that they were louder than the limit) and let them off with a blah blah talk about the new blah blah law.

Fast foward some time can't remember longer than a month though and speak to said car. He was asked about exhaust by my partner and he goes off on a KB style rant against pigs (don't ask me why pork had anything to do with it) and every thing else under the sun.

Once he had finished, it was explained to him that I had already spoken to him about it, I remember the car and him driving it. Well did he wear a frown when he remembered me speaking to him.

Had the exhaust been certed? Come on guys and girls place your bets.

The answer is not a thing.

Mind you I am 4ft in diameter by the time you factor in all my donuts and coffee. Does that make me short or just big boned

[avgas]

Why do you say that he is on a power trip? He could be trying to educate hence no ticket.

Oh thats right the Police aren't allowed to do that

Nope he is allowed to educate.
Problem being was:
a) he did not follow said ute to testing facility to confirm
b) no warning was given
c) the plates were not punched into the system to confirm that this was the first time an education was given.

Also cops are usually quite nice when they are educating.
He was power tripping. Just like when I got pulled over as the RG was "smoking too much".

Fact of the matter is they don't have anything - but sure it was you doing the dodgy.......so try ANYTHING.

Cops aren't bad overall - but like everyone they have bad days.

[SMOKEU]

He was power tripping. Just like when I got pulled over as the RG was "smoking too much".

It's all good as long as "The smoke produced is not noticeably and significantly more visible than it would have been when the vehicle was manufactured and supplied with the fuel recommended by the manufacturer"

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/vi...11-exhaust.pdf

[scumdog]

Naaa ... the cop was power tripping ... Yes they are allowed to educate - they have special officers tasked to do that .. the ordinary road side cops power trip ...

I'll bet he was short ....

Wow, lucky that you were there to see and hear it all eh!

[Juzz976]

The procedure is;

A noisy vehicle is heard on the road, stopped and inspected.

If it has been modified (the exhaust) and in the opinion of the officer is significantly louder than the original then he can direct that it go to a low volume vehicle certifier for an objective noise.

This certifier will measure the noise output of the vehicle using a procedure laid down by NZTA.

If the vehicle passes the exhaust is certified by issuing a certificate and placing a tamper proof plate on the exhaust of the vehicle.

If stopped again you have to be able to produce this certificate and the sticker must be visible and still affixed to the exhaust.

Its actually the opinion of the officer, if they consider it too loud you get a ticket.
You could at the time of being pulled over measure the dB with a meter and still be liable for the ticket.
Can't wait till we see more laws coming in like this one.
I was gutted about the pre crime division not passing their law, If an officer suspects a driver may accelerate too quickly from a stand still they can be pulled over and fined. For something they may or may not have intention to do.