The Paul Henry thread

[martybabe]

Knee jerk censorship IMO. Sure he swings between being the nemesis of the arrogant powers that be and a giggling school boy with his foot firmly in his mouth but without him, or people like him, you end up with a bunch of heavily censored, bland, yes men presenters that are scared of their own shadow that never challenge anyone about anything.

Take a gander at British TV if you get the chance, apart from a few irreverent comedians late at night, it's tantamount to state controlled TV, if you dare even think controversial thoughts you get the boot, a bunch of arse licking sycophants, Is that really what we want in NZ.

Anyway, details are shaky but Did Hone not recently exclaim that he would not permit his offspring to bring Whiteys home, Did not the PM state reluctance to sit down and feed with a certain Maori tribe for fear of being eaten. I don't recall either of them being suspended or forced to (resign). If we are going to get all PC and anal then surely we should punish everyone equally for having opinions at odds with the self appointed, moralistic, arrogant, censorship elite.

Sorry for the rant but I just paid the rego on my bike, robbed by Nicks myth, the lying cheating robbing tosser that he is, frankly I'd rather he took the piss out of my name and Origin than sting me in the wallet for a crime I haven't committed. Nurse! more meds please

[Swoop]

... it's tantamount to state controlled TV, if you dare even think controversial thoughts you get the boot, a bunch of arse licking sycophants, Is that really what we want in NZ.

We already have, but we call it "TVNZ".

[MisterD]

Oooooo ... How un-PC of you ... (snigger) .. I hope you're not really Paul Henry ..

No he's part gyppo, I'm part bog-irish mick. Luckily the 75% tightfisted miserable yorkshire keeps that bit under control...

[RiderInBlack]

Get over it Guys. Paul Henry is yesterday's Breakfast, just like Paul Holmes (funny how they have the same first name, are PH, and have similar mannerisms). They wil replace him with someone that will be as much an Arse once the dust has settled (and they start ta get cocky with their popularity).
I am sure we have not seen the last of him (Paul Holmes managed to seek back), unfortunately.
Now go and ride ya bikes.

[Banditbandit]

Anyway, details are shaky but Did Hone not recently exclaim that he would not permit his offspring to bring Whiteys home,

No .. that's not what Hone said at all ..

Did not the PM state reluctance to sit down and feed with a certain Maori tribe for fear of being eaten.

Not what happened .. Key did say that as a joke - and got smacked for it ...

I don't recall either of them being suspended or forced to (resign). If we are going to get all PC and anal then surely we should punish everyone equally for having opinions at odds with the self appointed, moralistic, arrogant, censorship elite.

Sorry for the rant but I just paid the rego on my bike, robbed by Nicks myth, the lying cheating robbing tosser that he is, frankly I'd rather he took the piss out of my name and Origin than sting me in the wallet for a crime I haven't committed. Nurse! more meds please

What Paul Henry suggested was that our GG did not "look like a New Zealander ..."


Well, what does a NZer look like ? Do you have to Look Māori or Look Pākehā to be counted as "A New Zealander" ? Henry was working of an assumption that, at its core, is racist and offensive ... There4 have been other threads here that discuss the inclusive nature of New ZEaland society and culture - Henry is just perpetrating a perception that "a New Zealander is white (.. oh .. and we'd better count Māori in there as well ..) "

[Banditbandit]

Anyway, details are shaky but Did Hone not recently exclaim that he would not permit his offspring to bring Whiteys home,

No .. that's not what Hone said at all ..

Did not the PM state reluctance to sit down and feed with a certain Maori tribe for fear of being eaten.

Not what happened .. Key did say that as a joke - and got smacked for it ...

I don't recall either of them being suspended or forced to (resign). If we are going to get all PC and anal then surely we should punish everyone equally for having opinions at odds with the self appointed, moralistic, arrogant, censorship elite.

Sorry for the rant but I just paid the rego on my bike, robbed by Nicks myth, the lying cheating robbing tosser that he is, frankly I'd rather he took the piss out of my name and Origin than sting me in the wallet for a crime I haven't committed. Nurse! more meds please

What Paul Henry suggested was that our GG did not "look like a New Zealander ..."


Well, what does a NZer look like ? Do you have to Look Māori or Look Pākehā to be counted as "A New Zealander" ? Henry was working of an assumption that, at its core, is racist and offensive ... There have been other threads here that discuss the inclusive nature of New Zealand society and culture - and we generally seem to like that idea ('cept for the facist fags like SmokeU) ... Henry is just perpetrating a perception that "a New Zealander is white (.. oh .. and we'd better count Māori in there as well ..) "

[SMOKEU]

Why can't people just get over themselves? If a black person calls me "white trash" or "trailer trash" or "honky" or "redneck", then I personally wouldn't care. I'd just laugh it off as a big joke.
I've had Maoris make racist comments to me and I find their lame attempt at trying to insult me quite amusing.
Why do people feel the need to get so upset over anything to do with race based comments?

[Grubber]

Why can't people just get over themselves? If a black person calls me "white trash" or "trailer trash" or "honky" or "redneck", then I personally wouldn't care. I'd just laugh it off as a big joke.
I've had Maoris make racist comments to me and I find their lame attempt at trying to insult me quite amusing.
Why do people feel the need to get so upset over anything to do with race based comments?

Ummm...c a u s e i t's a r a c e b a s e d c o m m e n t !

Did i say that slow enough for ya!

[SMOKEU]

Ummm...c a u s e i t's a r a c e b a s e d c o m m e n t !

So? I don't give a phuck if people get offended by that, they can get over it.

[george formby]

For anybody who is familiar with Viz, do you think Paul Henry looks & acts like "Roger Mellie the Man on the Telly"?

[martybabe]

No .. that's not what Hone said at all ..




Not what happened .. Key did say that as a joke - and got smacked for it ...



What Paul Henry suggested was that our GG did not "look like a New Zealander ..."


Well, what does a NZer look like ? Do you have to Look Māori or Look Pākehā to be counted as "A New Zealander" ? Henry was working of an assumption that, at its core, is racist and offensive ... There have been other threads here that discuss the inclusive nature of New Zealand society and culture - and we generally seem to like that idea ('cept for the facist fags like SmokeU) ... Henry is just perpetrating a perception that "a New Zealander is white (.. oh .. and we'd better count Māori in there as well ..) "

I did say details were shaky because I honestly don't pay that much attention to reports of people saying stuff they maybe wish they hadn't for fear of an almighty backlash Like Henry has got, whether said in jest or ignorance I guess we all wish some things we said could be removed from record. However in an attempt to put the record straight, Hone said......

The NZ Herald asked Maori Party MP Mr Harawira how he would feel if one of his kids came home with a Pakeha partner. His response went "I wouldn't feel comfortable. Like all Pakehas would be happy with their daughters coming home with a Maori boy? And the answer is they wouldn't".

I don't recall Hone resigning , furthermore, I don't recall Mr Key resigning for insinuating a certain Iwi might have cannibalistic tendencies, I fully accept that it was said in jest, an ill thought out attempt at humour and that is precisely what I am defending here. If we say nothing for fear of upsetting some people, then we say precisely that 'nothing'.

Sometimes people ,or Henrys, go too far and it is quite right that they should be made to justify/explain their opinion/slur/joke, if it has genuinely upset someone.I am merely stating here that we should be careful what we wish for because censorship and the PC brigade would have us all believe ,via the media ,that the world is full of fluffy bunnies and every one is happy as piggys in poo and whilst real crime, murder rape robbery and real racism continues to escalate unabated on our streets, we get outraged because someone in the public eye thought that the name dikshit is a funny name or that someone holding office in NZ doesn't actually look very new Zealanderish.

All three of the above have been recorded as saying something controversial but not one of them has even come close to me baying for their blood, perspective is the name of the game here , I'm more concerned with paying the mortgage than listening to people bicker over a bit of something and nothing.

I don't look like a New Zealander. I'm sure my name means something funny somewhere in the world, I have a moustache and I'm brown skinned in the summer and white as snow in the winter. Whilst I take the point that some people can be mortally offended by a few ill chosen words from just about anybody, I am not one of them and I think we are getting way too precious about what is quite often a case of mouth in gear before brain. Nuff said, I shall not be back to discuss further it ain't worth the typing time, Cheers.

[spacemonkey]

One bloggers take on this mess.... Well worth a read I found it fuckin funny.
http://publicaddress.net/6901#post6901

Calling someone a cunt for what they said does not interfere with their freedom of speech. It is, in fact, the opposite. It is active participation in the marketplace of ideas. Granted, neither what Paul Henry said nor "Paul Henry is a cunt" are particularly good or useful ideas. But hey, even the marketplace of ideas has a $2 Shop.

Nonetheless, this is precisely why democracies have freedom of speech - so that people can say whatever they want, and other people can say "No, you're a dick. Fuck off." This is the free and frank competition of ideas, regardless of how crap those ideas are.

Let's consider what freedom of speech is not........

[Bikemad]

Why can't people just get over themselves? If a black person calls me "white trash" or "trailer trash" or "honky" or "redneck", then I personally wouldn't care. I'd just laugh it off as a big joke.
I've had Maoris make racist comments to me and I find their lame attempt at trying to insult me quite amusing.
Why do people feel the need to get so upset over anything to do with race based comments?

spoken like a true redneck bigot

[SMOKEU]

spoken like a true redneck bigot

Spoken like a true tree hugging greenie.

[Grubber]

So? I don't give a phuck if people get offended by that, they can get over it.

Spoken like a true white, arrogant, racist of the majority group.