Global warming (or whatever it's called now) - apparently NZ has missed out

[Pwalo]

Well here's something that probably won't appear in the NZ papers for a while:

http://www.thegwpf.org/climategate/1...-scandal-.html

Apparently the figures to support AGW in our lovely land have been crocked. Who would have thought???

[marie_speeds]

I'd say it's bloody nipply today...

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

Back in August

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-sto...uracy-of-data/

[mashman]

hand in cookie jar. Wonder where to from here... And can we have our money back please

[oldrider]

Too late we are already paying the stupid ETS thanks mainly to that idiot Nick Smith!

[Mully]

Too late we are already paying the stupid ETS thanks mainly to that idiot Nick Smith!

While I don't deny that Nick Smith is, without doubt, an idiot, my understanding is that Labour had already signed us up to the ETS (as part of the Kyoto thingy) before they got turfed out in 2008.

In fact, I was under the impression that the ETS we have is much less than the ETS we would have got had Labour stayed as the Gummint.

More than happy to be corrected if I'm mistaken though.

[MSTRS:Me]

ETS...Eternal Tax Shakedown ??

[munster]

I beleive it's now called Climate Change.

If it gets warm it's proof of Global Warming and our collective guilt will get poked with an 'I told you so'

If it gets colder it's proof of Climate Change and our collective guilt will get poked with an 'I told you so'

See, we lose whatever happens. That's called democracy.

[wysper]

Read somewhere recently that the ozone hole is not infact growing any more, it is infact shrinking.

*rummage rummage* trying to find the bloody link now *rummage rummage*

Hurmph. I'll keep looking.

ok found a bunch... seems that shrinking hole is NOT at trend, is NOT recovery, infact it is bad because it will increase the speed of global warming

Ahh google is always good for a laugh.

[mashman]

I beleive it's now called Climate Change.

If it gets warm it's proof of Global Warming and our collective guilt will get poked with an 'I told you so'

If it gets colder it's proof of Climate Change and our collective guilt will get poked with an 'I told you so'

See, we lose whatever happens. That's called democracy.

I have no guilt over what others do... I have repressed anger, because Climate Change is inevitable... We orbit the sun eliptically whilst wobbling on our axis and most likely (happy to be wrong) hardly ever cross the same piece of space twice whilst dodging solar flares that DO interact with our atmosphere, solar winds etc... and yet some dude with a calculator, and an eraser, tells us we're all fucked and it's our fault and that VAST sums of money is needed to prove it, so that they can tax us for it ... More chunky monkey anyone

[avgas]

I haven't trusted NIWA since I helped them out in 2005.
Their weather stations are the most poorly setup equipment I have ever seen. Even a graduate knows not to put a thermometer next to the roof heat extraction unit (Air-Con)........

Don't even get me started about their tsunami warning system......

Never give a scientist a blank cheque and make them their own authority.....

Fuck now I am all worked up again.

[Jantar]

I haven't trusted NIWA since I helped them out in 2005.
Their weather stations are the most poorly setup equipment I have ever seen. Even a graduate knows not to put a thermometer next to the roof heat extraction unit (Air-Con)........

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Never give a scientist a blank cheque and make them their own authority.....

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In defense of many of NIWA's scientists, in general, blame the bean counters rather than the scientists. A climatologist wants to establish a weather station near a particular location, lets use Invercargill as an example. The scientist bases his proposal to NIWA management on an ideal weather station on an ideal piece of land with no trees or buildings within 30 meters, no built up areas within 3 km, and no likelyhood of being built out for at least 50 years.

Weather station cost: $2600
Communications package: $4500
Remote power supply with backup: $7500
Lease of land: $1000 per annum
Maintenance: $2000 per annum
Total $14600 (yes, I have been involved with a few so these figures are pretty close)
Annual: $3000

What gets approved is: Place it next to the control tower at the airport and use the mains power supply:

Weather station cost: $2600
Communications package: $200
Remote power supply with backup: $nil
Rent of 1 sq m of building: $200 per annum
Maintenance: $200 per annum
Total $2800
Annual $400

Instead of a nice pristine site with class A data we get a contaminated UHI site with class D data.

Then someone like Salinger will come along and homogenise the data to make the results useless.

[schrodingers cat]

See, we lose whatever happens. That's called democracy.

I thought it was called bullshit. Or theft.

Too much for my small brain

[Stormer]

The so called "Global Warming" is just a NWO conspiracy, as in BS.
The Earth goes through natural warm and cold phases in hundreds/thousands of year spans.
I know...`cos I watched it on TV.
It`s just being used as another form of taxing the sheeple.

[Mental Trousers]

I'm not at all surprised that people have cooked up data to support global warming. Bloody hippies.