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    A bike possessed?

    Hey just picked up a 2005 suzi ax100 with 10000ks on her for 3 'unj, unseen or her, but was garunteed to be rideable back into town from out in yaldhurst (thru a little bit of 100k zone) Well she didnt even manage 50ks, feels like she is in a choke hold.

    So i came home, removed the filter and cleaned it, then gradually started shoving things up her arse with a hammer, until i felt that there was at least some sort of throughput.

    Fire her back up and she sounds fuckin meaaan, then all of a sudden she manages to start redlining on her own, awesome i think, she can redline now. So i switched off the key, OH SHIT, STILL REDLINING. So i ripped the ht lead off (no zap today woohoo) and wtf, STILL REDLINING! Whacked her into gear and jumped on the back end to stall her heart pumping.

    Now im pretty baffled, is there a name for this phenomena? I notice that the plug is a bp6es, which seems pretty damn hot , but then this is my first air cooled 2t so not too sure. Im assuming they had to put in the extremely hot plug to compensate for the completely blocked exhaust and air filter, and that this is making an extreme hotspot causing the crazy run on.

    Look forward to your suggestions.

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    I'd be whipping the head off to give the thing a complete de-coke. Don't forget the exhaust port and header either.
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    Bawahahahaha, gold. No advice sorry but a similar tale to share. It's probably the PowerBand by the way.

    Drew was fucking around with my A50 one day when he was about 13. He managed to get the thing jammed full noise and it wouldn't shut down. He thought "Pull the fuelline off!", so he did. So now it's screaming its nuts off, with fuel pissing everywhere. So he decides to stall it. It wheelies off accross the carpark, smashes into the back of mums mint Morris Minor and wedges itself under the back of the car, with drew, rear wheel off the ground, screaming its nuts off. Last ditch attempt thinks Drew, and wrenchs the plug lead off........

    I was washing the van, laughing my fucken arse off as the thing explodes into flames along with Drews fuel drenched arm.

    It was, without a doubt, the funniest fucken thing that has ever occured in the history of motorcycling. Bar none.
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    Quote Originally Posted by White trash View Post
    Bawahahahaha, gold. No advice sorry but a similar tale to share. It's probably the PowerBand by the way.

    Drew was fucking around with my A50 one day when he was about 13. He managed to get the thing jammed full noise and it wouldn't shut down. He thought "Pull the fuelline off!", so he did. So now it's screaming its nuts off, with fuel pissing everywhere. So he decides to stall it. It wheelies off accross the carpark, smashes into the back of mums mint Morris Minor and wedges itself under the back of the car, with drew, rear wheel off the ground, screaming its nuts off. Last ditch attempt thinks Drew, and wrenchs the plug lead off........

    I was washing the van, laughing my fucken arse off as the thing explodes into flames along with Drews fuel drenched arm.

    It was, without a doubt, the funniest fucken thing that has ever occured in the history of motorcycling. Bar none.
    If your not bullshittin us that has fuckin made my day!!! 10 outa 10!!!
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    Pictures or it didn't happen. Even if you have to re-enact them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reckless View Post
    If your not bullshittin us that has fuckin made my day!!! 10 outa 10!!!
    Swear to god, hand on heart, that's how it happened.

    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    Pictures or it didn't happen. Even if you have to re-enact them.
    Bear in mind this is 19 years ago mate, well before digital photography. From bike beginning to scream, to explosion was probably 10 seconds total. Ask Drew about it next time ya see him, funniest fucken thing I've ever seen and probably ever will.
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    last time I saw him he was wearing an HD T shirt. How reliable a witness do you think we think he is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    last time I saw him he was wearing an HD T shirt. How reliable a witness do you think we think he is.
    Ah, but he's not a witness. He's the Victim.
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    Does anyone know if that plug is way too hot for the engine and could be causing this? or possibly the jetting is now so up the shit due to it being able to breath, that it is leaning out badly. Also does anyone know the importance of a brp9es over a br9es, the electrode sticks down 2mm or so, not sure if this is standard.

    And I love that story, but it also scares me , because it is basically what flashed through my mind the second after i pulled the plug lead off, which was a few seconds after pulling the fuel line and remembering the full float bowl leaving about a litre of gas over my now nicely clean engine, me and the ground. Touch wood !

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    did you remove the carb slide? If you did it might be in backwards , or its jummied open a bit, doesnt need much of a crack to make it rev
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    Ha - brought back memories - first time I raced my Mach 3 I came in from practise with it doing 9 grand - like a fool I didn't stall it. Turned off ignition & fuel - still revving it's tits off - I reached in to strangle the center cylinder airbox boot, kirby did one side & Mike Sinclair did the other - then it ran out of fuel in the bowls.
    The surface gap plugs were plated - and the plating had flaked making perfect hot spots. Borrowed some race plugs & carried on.....

    Look up the standard OE plug for your bike, fit it. Don't use a projecting tip plug if you're going to thrash it. Clean the carbon off the top edge of the exhaust port and maybe caustic bath the pipe and silencer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by White trash View Post
    Bawahahahaha, gold. No advice sorry but a similar tale to share. It's probably the PowerBand by the way.

    Drew was fucking around with my A50 one day when he was about 13. He managed to get the thing jammed full noise and it wouldn't shut down. He thought "Pull the fuelline off!", so he did. So now it's screaming its nuts off, with fuel pissing everywhere. So he decides to stall it. It wheelies off accross the carpark, smashes into the back of mums mint Morris Minor and wedges itself under the back of the car, with drew, rear wheel off the ground, screaming its nuts off. Last ditch attempt thinks Drew, and wrenchs the plug lead off........

    I was washing the van, laughing my fucken arse off as the thing explodes into flames along with Drews fuel drenched arm.

    It was, without a doubt, the funniest fucken thing that has ever occured in the history of motorcycling. Bar none.
    The theme music to Jackass is the only thing missing mate !

    I had a similer thing happen with my Honda C200 90cc thing when i was 12 and it fucked off down the drive and the dome nuts that hold the top of the rear shocks on (that had tops broken off) and the nasty threads cut big gauges in my inner theighs as i bailed off it, it stopped really well into a tree and snapped the forks off

    Not as good as Drews escapade, no flames

    It sounds like drews A50 training got him preped for the manfeild extension track fence jump

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    Quote Originally Posted by rabidnz View Post
    Hey just picked up a 2005 suzi ax100 with 10000ks on her for 3 'unj, unseen or her, but was garunteed to be rideable back into town from out in yaldhurst (thru a little bit of 100k zone) Well she didnt even manage 50ks, feels like she is in a choke hold.

    So i came home, removed the filter and cleaned it, then gradually started shoving things up her arse with a hammer, until i felt that there was at least some sort of throughput.

    Fire her back up and she sounds fuckin meaaan, then all of a sudden she manages to start redlining on her own, awesome i think, she can redline now. So i switched off the key, OH SHIT, STILL REDLINING. So i ripped the ht lead off (no zap today woohoo) and wtf, STILL REDLINING! Whacked her into gear and jumped on the back end to stall her heart pumping.

    Now im pretty baffled, is there a name for this phenomena? I notice that the plug is a bp6es, which seems pretty damn hot , but then this is my first air cooled 2t so not too sure. Im assuming they had to put in the extremely hot plug to compensate for the completely blocked exhaust and air filter, and that this is making an extreme hotspot causing the crazy run on.

    Look forward to your suggestions.
    I had a Z200 Kwaka that would run without the key on if you thrashed it enuf 1st, as i always did anyway.
    Must have had a mean hot spot somewere, hardly dropped any power and would only stop once the revs were under 3000

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    The P is projected tip.

    You have auto ignition (hot spot igniting the fuel - hilarimouse!). Give it a proper decoke, clean out the pipe & put in the right plug, if yer keen check the timing, make sure you have an airfilter & you should be ok
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    Pictures or it didn't happen. Even if you have to re-enact them.
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