OMG Toyota want the price of fuel to rise.

**DEVVIL** · 20th October 2010, 08:56

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/indu...-petrol-prices

**DEVVIL** · 20th October 2010, 08:59

Toyota want the price of fuel to rise so they can sell us more cheap to run cars.Drop dead Toyota....
Mr Alistair Davis wants family's to suffer so he can up his market share....

**MisterD** · 20th October 2010, 09:03

Originally Posted by DEVVIL

Toyota want the price of fuel to rise so they can sell us more cheap to run cars.Drop dead Toyota....

Cheap to run but, crucially, expensive to build and to buy. So let's keep the focus on "green" being all about CO2 and ignore all those tricky problems with the nasty chemicals needed to make all those Prius batteries...never mind end-of-life recycling either.

Wankers.

**Scuba_Steve** · 20th October 2010, 09:21

What a moron...

"The single most effective way to deal to this issue would be to raise petrol prices via introduction of a carbon tax, he said.
"That'd permanently shift us to a better emissions rate overall, because it would encourage us to shift to smaller cars," Mr Davis said."

... Ummm I can remember when petrol was 86c & people only had to complain about $0.0x rises, now we're at $1.8x & get to complain about $0.4c rises yet I don't see any less cars on the road, or any mass migration to smaller engine ones... Am I wrong???

**Rogue Rider** · 20th October 2010, 09:42

I want my bike to run on air so all the oil companies can go get naffed!!!!!!

Oil companied hold the economy and world to ransom! This must stop.... Freeeeeeedom!

**onearmedbandit** · 20th October 2010, 09:58

Originally Posted by DEVVIL

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/indu...-petrol-prices

Wow did that come from Toyota Head office In Nagoya? Or was it just the ramblings of the CEO of Toyota in NZ. Because there is a little difference...

**bogan** · 20th October 2010, 10:10

Originally Posted by onearmedbandit

Wow did that come from Toyota Head office In Nagoya? Or was it just the ramblings of the CEO of Toyota in NZ. Because there is a little difference...

yeh, just a tad. Spose he reckons that people who now have no money due to high fuel prices (and the flow on effects from higher transportation costs) will be able to somehow spend (whats a prius worth these days 40k?) heaps on a new car. To me it sounds like there would just be a heap more taking the bus!

**imdying** · 20th October 2010, 10:12

Alistair Davis is a cock. I wonder who's problem it is dumping all the shitty Prius batteries from all the taxis? I'm betting not Toyotas.

Companies that only pretend to be green can fuck off.

**DEVVIL** · 20th October 2010, 10:28

Originally Posted by bogan

yeh, just a tad. Spose he reckons that people who now have no money due to high fuel prices (and the flow on effects from higher transportation costs) will be able to somehow spend (whats a prius worth these days 40k?) heaps on a new car. To me it sounds like there would just be a heap more taking the bus!

55K for a second hand one
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-278227243.htm
And they call it green. So how do they dump the battery's?

**onearmedbandit** · 20th October 2010, 10:42

Originally Posted by DEVVIL

55K for a second hand one
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-278227243.htm
And they call it green. So how do they dump the battery's?

Yup if you want the top of the range Prius, one year old with 3,000km. Decent examples start from $15k.

**onearmedbandit** · 20th October 2010, 10:46

And while I'm not a fan of the Prius, do you really think a company the size of Toyota hasn't already considered what to do with the batteries?

A quick google search returned fears of them being dumped in the ocean etc, but if you look past the scaremongering you'll find Toyota was already considering the effects of the batteries.

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/to...plan-8360.html

**MisterD** · 20th October 2010, 11:07

Originally Posted by onearmedbandit

And while I'm not a fan of the Prius, do you really think a company the size of Toyota hasn't already considered what to do with the batteries?

That's not the point. The point is that considered as a whole-life thing, the Prius is not "green". If you really want to be green, buy a small modern petrol car and drive like a nanna.

**onearmedbandit** · 20th October 2010, 11:12

Originally Posted by MisterD

That's not the point. The point is that considered as a whole-life thing, the Prius is not "green". If you really want to be green, buy a small modern petrol car and drive like a nanna.

Not the point. Of course not, I never said the Prius was green. Add to that the article quoted didn't mention the Prius either.

**imdying** · 20th October 2010, 11:39

The figures seem good, but apparently the 5% that can't be recycled is because it's super nasty shite.

**bogan** · 20th October 2010, 11:41

Originally Posted by MisterD

That's not the point. The point is that considered as a whole-life thing, the Prius is not "green". If you really want to be green, buy a small modern petrol car and drive like a nanna.

agree on the nana bit, but make sure its a second hand car, there is a theory that the petrol used in the lifetime of a car is still less than the manufacturing energy cost to make it, so old ones ftw!