Give them a break!

[Banditbandit]

So therein lies the conundrum. My story is the direct opposite of yours, so why is that? Why is it that two innocent people can have so different life stories? Why can you attract unjustified and undeserved prejudicial attention from the Police while I can have a dream run with not one incidence of undeserved harrasment? Why have I always been treated with respect from the Police and you haven't?

Mate ... I'm a rebel ... always have been, always will be ... My childhood heroes were Ulrich Meinhoff and Sonny Barger (Google the names you young pups ) and I completely identified with Jim Fixx ... I don't bow down and cower before ANY authority ...

Society has ways of dealing to people like me .. and the police, those fine upholders of society's mores ... are one way of dealing with people like me ... if not by arrest ... then by harrassment etc etc ...

As soon as you don't toe the line then you're going to be a target ... it doesn't matter whether you are doing anythign illegal .. you don't look like an ordinary citizen, you don't talk like and ordinary citizen ... we'll find a way to drop on you ..

[StoneY]

Well lets say I am very lucky the last Labour Gubbermint gave us 'The Clean Slate' act... or I would never have passed the interview for my job.

Misguided youth, chip on shoulder with everyfuckinthing (still there actually) and some bad habits that followed me well into my adulthood

I got a hell beating from on overzealous young detective once but looking back, I would have kicked my ass for the hell of it the way I was behaving back then......

Gotta have em, and I dont envy thier job, just hope they learn to stop initiating persuits with uturns

Oh and the chick copper in Hamilton should have fired her firearm IMO...bloody oath!

[DarkLord]

Good call Stoney.

Police are just human beings who are trying to do their job, same as everyone else. Of course there are always going to be times when the coppers are out of line, but think what NZ society would be like if they just disappeared altogether.

The stupid muppets who make their jobs hard are the type of people who are "all rights and no responsibilites", think that they are not responsible for anything and are always trying to pass the blame onto someone else. "That cop assaulted me!?! I R GOING TO KICK THEIR ARSE!1!!!!1!" Someone should tell these people, Perhaps YOU might have done something to incite them acting in this way?

What these people need to learn is that you cannot find any release passing your responsibilites onto other people. YOU are responsible for your behavior and your attitude, NO ONE ELSE.

The sooner people begin to learn said lessons, the sooner we will live in a far better society and the job of the police will become a lot easier.

[Edbear]

Mate ... I'm a rebel ... always have been, always will be ... My childhood heroes were Ulrich Meinhoff and Sonny Barger (Google the names you young pups ) and I completely identified with Jim Fixx ... I don't bow down and cower before ANY authority ...

Society has ways of dealing to people like me .. and the police, those fine upholders of society's mores ... are one way of dealing with people like me ... if not by arrest ... then by harrassment etc etc ...

As soon as you don't toe the line then you're going to be a target ... it doesn't matter whether you are doing anythign illegal .. you don't look like an ordinary citizen, you don't talk like and ordinary citizen ... we'll find a way to drop on you ..

Is it really justified to blame the Police? It sounds, (and I say this in the nicest way...), like you have rather been an arrogant, mouthy upstart to attract the attention. I have many family, friends and aquaintances who are not clean, green and meek, "goody-goody-two-shoes" and I speak my mind and don't cowtow to anyone either, yet I don't know anyone who has your kind of hassles from the law.

I treat everyone, including the Police with dignity and respect and receive the same in return. If something is none of my business, ie: as a bystander, I keep out of it.

I don't see the wisdom in attracting negative attention, just to show you're a rebel.

[scumdog]

Just riding bikes ... long hair ... scruffy looking ..

Unjustified search for drugs ...

Racist crap ...

Bullying (they once told my mate in the pub he was too drunk to ride .. he pointed at me and said "He's riding ..." They accepted that ... I was drunk as ..l. my mate was completely sober because he'd just walked in ... caught us just around the corner .. him on the front ... took keys ... "You're too drunk to ride" no breath test - no blood test ... no charges - just the hassle of pushing a bike about a mile to a safe lockup ... )

Searched several times while walking home at around 9pm in the evening ... minding my own business ... they never found anything

Stopped and questioned about my whereabouts three nights before .. two nights before .. where are you going now ... doing nothing except minding my own business ... let me go on my way .. just a hallse ...

Cop kicking my bike on the side of the road ... kicking the mufflers, kicking the side panels ...

Watched cops clear a house "the party's too noisey - everyone's leaving " .. including throwing one person across a porch rail, he sustained sever bruising to the kidney and spent time in hospital - when the house was cleared they asked to speak to the occupant .. and were then told "The person in the ambulance, the one you threw across the porch railings ..."

Jeez .. the list goes all the way back to the early 70s .. heaps of examples ..

Some people have a gift of living their lives as above.

Others (yes, me too) seem never to have such problems and all dealings with the law when younger have been fair.

Kharma, fate, bad luck? - I dunno....

[Banditbandit]

Mate, when you are sitting quietly in the Square in Chch .. not hassling anyone, not doing anything except reading a book ... not talking to anyone ... and the police demand to search you "for drugs ..." and when you ask "On what Grounds ?" they come back with something like "suspicion of carrying drugs ..." their only real evidence is that you have long hair ...

How do you think we feel ??? Pissed off? Harrassed ???

Yeah ... I have not been an ideal citizen in the past ... and I know when I have been provocative and stirring .. and when I haven't ...

I do know the difference .. I'm not stupid ... or arrogant ... If I have to deal with the police, I will ... on a polite and non-confrontational basis ...

But I have seen them provoke things ... step outside the law ... on their own initiative ...

[White trash]

Some people have a gift of living their lives as above.

Others (yes, me too) seem never to have such problems and all dealings with the law when younger have been fair.

Kharma, fate, bad luck? - I dunno....

Fuck up copper.

[Grasshopperus]

Big thanks to the NZ Police; they have to deal with the absolute scum of society so we don't have to (as much). That house you don't want burglarised, your SO who you'd prefer isn't raped every time they walk out the door, sunshine, ponies and more.

When watching "police-10-7" or "motorway patrol" you see all the stuff they have to put up with, all the time I'm secretly hoping that they only put up with it because of the camera and that if some little punk started swearing at them in a normal situation they'd get a nightstick in the mouth.

Point appreciated Toaster, we're all human and we all make mistakes. The police have the unfortunate roll of doing their job in a country where the most interesting news day-to-day is cats getting stuck up trees which makes any of their mistakes stand out like a sore thumb.

Thanks mates!

[Banditbandit]

Some people have a gift of living their lives as above.

Others (yes, me too) seem never to have such problems and all dealings with the law when younger have been fair.

Kharma, fate, bad luck? - I dunno....

I will admit to "mixing with the wrong crowd" . so there might be a fair bit of "guilt by association " ...

However, I have experienced and witnessed cops "crossing the line" enough to not be particulalry sympathetic ...

[HenryDorsetCase]

Big thanks to the NZ Police; they have to deal with the absolute scum of society so we don't have to (as much). That house you don't want burglarised, your SO who you'd prefer isn't raped every time they walk out the door, sunshine, ponies and more.
!

I'd think you'd call the SPCA if your pony was getting raped, not the po po. Unless the pony was underage.

[marie_speeds]

Mate, when you are sitting quietly in the Square in Chch .. not hassling anyone, not doing anything except reading a book ... not talking to anyone ... and the police demand to search you "for drugs ..." and when you ask "On what Grounds ?" they come back with something like "suspicion of carrying drugs ..." their only real evidence is that you have long hair ...

How do you think we feel ??? Pissed off? Harrassed ???

Yeah ... I have not been an ideal citizen in the past ... and I know when I have been provocative and stirring .. and when I haven't ...

I do know the difference .. I'm not stupid ... or arrogant ... If I have to deal with the police, I will ... on a polite and non-confrontational basis ...

But I have seen them provoke things ... step outside the law ... on their own initiative ...

When I was 15 I was walking back to school after lunch (was in mufti) cop car pulled up said that there had been a burglary in the area then proceeded to grill me. Told me he'd let me off if I did him a "favour"....
So can totally understand where you're coming from.

And for the record he didn't get the "favour".

[Genie]

When I was 15 I was walking back to school after lunch (was in mufti) cop car pulled up said that there had been a burglary in the area then proceeded to grill me. Told me he'd let me off if I did him a "favour"....
So can totally understand where you're coming from.

And for the record he didn't get the "favour".

Really????? And at 15 you didn't report this despicable action from a law enforcement officer....

[mattian]

When I was 15 I was walking back to school after lunch (was in mufti) cop car pulled up said that there had been a burglary in the area then proceeded to grill me. Told me he'd let me off if I did him a "favour"....
So can totally understand where you're coming from.

And for the record he didn't get the "favour".

If this indeed happened, then I implore you to make a formal complaint about it. How many times could he have done this to other people because you let it go?.
NZ Police have a VERY high standard of integrity and if this officer is in fact guilty of what you are accusing then, his feet wouldn't even touch the floor on his way out the door.

[Laava]

I have experienced both sides, so can see how some people get off to a shitty start with the popo BUT one day you may need to call them, and they may turn up and totally change your viewpoint. Not a job I would be interested in for one minute. My bro tried the old, "My fingers slipped off the clutch officer, that's why I was doing a wheelie!" and the cop told him he was a liar. Well he was right. I am sure they get sick of hearing pathetic excuses. Better than having the gangs running the town!

[wingnutt]

I would like to see all the gutless whimps that constantly criticize police behind their keyboards try this job. A little less selfish focus on the self-proclaimed right to the roads above all others, and a bit more community spirit would be nice to see, and needed more than ever.

Cops are human and not perfect, but they have a job to do that revolves around keeping the peace both on the roads and our homes when needed. They get held personally resonsible for their actions. Personal responsibility for our own actions - now that is a novel concept lost on the stupid....

NEWS:
A Hamilton policewoman drew a gun on a group of men assaulting her partner after a Taser failed to subdue them.

A constable was left with a bloodied eye following the fracas, which stemmed from a domestic incident in Fairfield.

A female senior sergeant twice unsuccessfully used a Taser on three men who had piled on top of her constable colleague, beating him. She eventually drew her firearm as she awaited backup.

City area commander Inspector Rob Lindsay the officers were leaving the Marshall Ave address after attending the callout related to a heated argument between the 55-year-old father of the family at the address and his 34-year-old son and other people at the house.

As the police were leaving the father arrived and confronted them.

"A Taser was deployed and used twice on the father [one of the trio]," Mr Lindsay said.

"Despite making contact it had little effect."

The man's 34 and 18-year-old sons joined in the assault with the female officer drawing her firearm to stop them.

"I am very proud of my staff in that they were not afraid to use the whole range of tactical options available from trying to reason with the offenders to using their batons then pepper spray, a taser and eventually deploying a firearm to quell the situation," Mr Lindsay said.

"What concerns me the most is my staff, one of who suffered damage to an eye, were called to the address to help the people there and in turn were set upon by the occupants. This should not just be unacceptable to Police but to the community as a whole."

Three men were to face a variety of charges including aggravated assault and resisting police while a woman at the property was also charged with obstructing police.

while agree the police had a hard job to do, it does not give them the right to qct like arseholes, in fact in doing so only convinces ordinary people, that they are arseholes.

treat a person, in a way that they percieve to be unfair, and they wont remember the ticket, they will remember the bullshit coming from the cop. I know I still do, even after 3 years.

I'm an old bugger brought up to respect the police etc, but it only took one cop to treat me badly, and another to show me first hand they are prepared to lie, and now I no respect at all for the blue uniform. my fault??? I dont think so.

respect is earned, not a given, prove to me the police are prepared to treat people fairly, prove to me that that traffic officers are not arrogant, aggressive revenue collectors, and Ill consider thinking about respecting the police again.