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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    I should start my own tribe and have a big cry about how I've been unfairly treated and that I want my share of the foreshore and seabed.
    Did you sign a contract with the Queen stating that you would be allowed self governance over your lands and people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by imdying View Post
    Did you sign a contract with the Queen stating that you would be allowed self governance over your lands and people?
    Not as of yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    Not as of yet.

    Do you even hold citizenship here ?
    "So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."

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    Yup, it's all fucked up. Basically, it's a malformed contract that needs dissolution. Grievances have been settled as far as needed, or indeed is prudent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    Do you even hold citizenship here ?
    As of early this year, yes.

    Why is it that Maori people are allowed to be out and proud about being a Maori, but if I say anything about white pride I'm immediately labelled as a racist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    As of early this year, yes.

    Why is it that Maori people are allowed to be out and proud about being a Maori, but if I say anything about white pride I'm immediately labelled as a racist?
    Maybe because of the forms you use to demonstrate white pride ?

    Maybe because, demonstrably, you are a racist ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    Maybe because of the forms you use to demonstrate white pride ?

    Maybe because, demonstrably, you are a racist ...
    So a group of Maoris performing the Haka, which many people find very intimidating is a perfectly acceptable way of demonstrating their "Maori pride", whilst whites aren't allowed demonstrate white pride in any way without being called a racist?

    A few weeks ago in central Christchurch a group of National Front members were there for a gathering in a park, and there was a big group of anti racist fuckwits protesting against them, so police were called to keep an eye on the situation, while a kapa haka performance is meant to be tolerated by everyone else, and no one dares complain about a bunch of Maoris dancing with spears.

    If me and a few of my mates started dancing around in public with spears we would likely be arrested for possession of an offensive weapon. Do you see a pattern here?

    Now that's what is racist, having separate rules for the different races.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
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    kapa haka performance
    You're gonna have to troll harder than that mate. It's a bit of a stretch to compare celebrating your heritage with those guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imdying View Post
    You're gonna have to troll harder than that mate. It's a bit of a stretch to compare celebrating your heritage with those guys.
    I'm not trying to be a troll here, I'm trying to point out some differences in how Maori get preferential treatment to white people.

    The National Front members weren't doing anything to intimidate people at that meeting which I attended, they were simply hanging out in a park without causing trouble. The police told the protesters to phuck off in the end, not the National Front members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    The National Front members weren't doing anything to intimidate people at that meeting which I attended, they were simply hanging out in a park without causing trouble. The police told the protesters to phuck off in the end, not the National Front members.
    Don't know mate, wasn't there. Trolling retards with racist comments on the internet to pass the time is one thing, but hanging out with knuckle draggers like that is something else again. Do yourself a favour and find some new mates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imdying View Post
    Don't know mate, wasn't there. Trolling retards with racist comments on the internet to pass the time is one thing, but hanging out with knuckle draggers like that is something else again. Do yourself a favour and find some new mates.
    They're not my mates, I just heard on the scanner that there were a bunch of skinners and a bunch of Maoris protesting in the central city and there was a significant potential for violence. Having nothing better to do on a Saturday afternoon, my curiosity got the better of me and I decided to check it out, just for shits and giggles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    They're not my mates, I just heard on the scanner that there were a bunch of skinners and a bunch of Maoris protesting in the central city and there was a significant potential for violence. Having nothing better to do on a Saturday afternoon, my curiosity got the better of me and I decided to check it out, just for shits and giggles.
    That's the thing Smoku, the concept of "white pride" is redundant, and has been foe some time.

    Im as white as they come, and I cannot think of a single thing that you could associate with being "proud" of just because you are white.

    Male pride? Yes
    Female pride? Yes

    No matter what the skin colour.

    But, what positive thing has ever been achieved in the name of "white pride"?
    Enslaving generations, stealing land, ( gosh, I canto on, it makes me feel ashamed just thinking about it)

    "Black pride"? Man, with out even thinking.....Martin Luthor King, Rosa Parks, Nelson Mendella, ..... This is just African/ American.... I could move on to Native American Indian, but we just don't have the bandwidth!

    You get whatt I am saying? I read plenty of posts from plenty of misinformed people on here regarding statistics involving disproportionate amounts of " non white" people in prisons in NZ, and around the world...... If you took the time to read the studies, you would see that prison populations are populated, sometimes up to 90% by people with little or no education, With a Father that has served time in prison, (and has a history of drug abuse), comes from a "broken home", and sufferers from lack of self-esteem.........

    basically, the bottom 20% of society makes up 90% of the prison population. (not exact, but the number are representative)

    then, look at what ethnic groups are in this "bottom 20%"....... well. Would you look at that.... Maori.

    Why? clearly, they have been disadvantaged, and there is a large proportion that have been stuck in a shitty circle, generation after generation that is not going to change by itself .

    The reason that "the bottom" of society exist is because they lack resources.... Like in good old South Africa..... No education for Blacks... Why? Because of you educate
    Someone, hay can (and will) teach the next generation, who in turn will teach the next, and so on.

    You want to keep a group of society down, don't let them have resources.....

    Maori have way more resources now than when I was a kid, and I am glad for it, there is shit loads of money in the bank accounts of the tribes of NZ, more than enough to create scholarships, provide free books, school fees and so on for the entire Maori population.

    the day that a group of white men protest outside the Beehive, demanding than all treaty claims MUST be used to pay for the education and betterment of every Maori person in New Zealand, is the day that "I say I am proud to be white"

    Other than that, a group of bald headed knuckle draggers wanking about "white pride" are simply stealing my oxygen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    I'm not trying to be a troll here, I'm trying to point out some differences in how Maori get preferential treatment to white people.

    The National Front members weren't doing anything to intimidate people at that meeting which I attended, they were simply hanging out in a park without causing trouble. The police told the protesters to phuck off in the end, not the National Front members.
    So hang on .. you and your mates are hanging around in a park, when a bunch of protestors turn up - and the police leave you guys alone and tell the protestorsd to leave ...

    I don't see what your problem is ... you have the right to peaceful assembly and the police reinforced that right ...

    Let's put a slghtly different perspective on it tho'

    A group of probably heavily tattooed young men, wearing black leathers and denim, with closely shaven heads are in the park acting and sounding like thugs ...

    Many people would be intimidated by that ... add one more element - colours - and you have exactly the group people are aiming anti-gang laws at ... What's the difference between your group in the park and the Mongrel Mob in the park ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    So hang on .. you and your mates are hanging around in a park, when a bunch of protestors turn up - and the police leave you guys alone and tell the protestorsd to leave ...

    I don't see what your problem is ... you have the right to peaceful assembly and the police reinforced that right ...

    Let's put a slghtly different perspective on it tho'

    A group of probably heavily tattooed young men, wearing black leathers and denim, with closely shaven heads are in the park acting and sounding like thugs ...

    Many people would be intimidated by that ... add one more element - colours - and you have exactly the group people are aiming anti-gang laws at ... What's the difference between your group in the park and the Mongrel Mob in the park ???
    I'm not affiliated with any of those persons in question, I was at home listening to the scanner when I heard that violent clashes may erupt at any time, so I went to check it out from a distance. I don't know anyone who was there, and I didn't talk to or associate with any of those persons.

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