Now that is a justifiable sentence!!!

**Ramius** · 10th June 2005, 14:01

"On the charge of murder in the first degree, you are hereby confined and imprisoned to the state penetentiary for life, with a mandatory term of 50 years to be served before eligibility of parole."*

Now that is an excellent sentence! Come to NZ, where we will give you 16 years for 5 murders!

Where is the accountability and the justice?

*The sentence was handed down for a guy who killed his girlfriend.

**ManDownUnder** · 10th June 2005, 14:05

Originally Posted by Ramius

"On the charge of murder in the first degree, you are hereby confined and imprisoned to the state penetentiary for life, with a mandatory term of 50 years to be served before eligibility of parole."*

Now that is an excellent sentence! Come to NZ, where we will give you 16 years for 5 murders!

Where is the accountability and the justice?

*The sentence was handed down for a guy who killed his girlfriend.

Agreed - but I find it hard to take your posts seriously with that guy... doing that thing in your avatar...

oooo it's disturbing...
MDU

**Hitcher** · 10th June 2005, 14:30

New Zealand has one of this highest incarceration rates in the developed world. I don't think that locking people up is an answer in itself. We also tend to lock folks up for unreasonably long times for crimes against or involving property, and for comparatively short time for crimes against people. But then that's just a generalisation.

And all generalisations are false (including this one).

**Str8 Jacket** · 10th June 2005, 14:45

Originally Posted by Ramius

"On the charge of murder in the first degree, you are hereby confined and imprisoned to the state penetentiary for life, with a mandatory term of 50 years to be served before eligibility of parole."*

Now that is an excellent sentence! Come to NZ, where we will give you 16 years for 5 murders!

Where is the accountability and the justice?

*The sentence was handed down for a guy who killed his girlfriend.

Where exactly do you work dude? . . . . This sounds remarkebly familiar

**Maximus** · 10th June 2005, 15:03

Originally Posted by Str8 Jacket

Where exactly do you work dude? . . . . This sounds remarkebly familiar

Hey Ramius, don't answer that, shes dodgy you know

Probably wants to issue a "warrant" on your wages!

(be especially worried if you owe money on fines)

*waits for bite, or arse kicking which ever comes first*

**Fart** · 10th June 2005, 15:10

I propose 50 years doing slave labour so that they can pay for the cost of the jails. Maybe making NZ T-shirts for tourist or somthing like that.

**Maximus** · 10th June 2005, 15:18

Originally Posted by Fart

I propose 50 years doing slave labour so that they can pay for the cost of the jails. Maybe making NZ T-shirts for tourist or somthing like that.

Now thats actually a bloody good idea!! Some people in Jail get looked after better than us! They get meals cooked for them basically everything is done for them, don't think that most of them even have to THINK for themselves!

**Fart** · 10th June 2005, 15:21

You known how the new Motorway proposal is budgeted to cost us $billions? Why not use all those FREE labour in prison to build the motorways for us? Free prison labour should reduce our motorway construction cost by at least 30%. And when they come out of prison they should have a skill as a construction worker. There should be no excuse for not working. Problems solved !

**badlieutenant** · 10th June 2005, 15:23

Originally Posted by Hitcher

New Zealand has one of this highest incarceration rates in the developed world. I don't think that locking people up is an answer in itself. We also tend to lock folks up for unreasonably long times for crimes against or involving property, and for comparatively short time for crimes against people. But then that's just a generalisation.

And all generalisations are false (including this one).

it may be a generalisation but I still remember been pissed off that some guys who tried to steal an ATM (sounded well thought out, no armed robbery required etc) got 16 years or there abouts and a mother who beat her baby to death with a kettle cord got 3 or 4 years! WTF ?
pretty clear message there...........

**Maximus** · 10th June 2005, 15:24

Originally Posted by Fart

You knolw how the Motorway is costing us $billions? Why not use all those FREE labour in prison to build the motorways for us? Free prison labour should reduce our motorway construction cost by at least 30%. And when they come out of prison they should have a skill as a construction worker. There should be no excuse for not working. Problems solved !

Here, here!! Give that man a beer!!

**Ramius** · 10th June 2005, 16:36

Originally Posted by Maximus

Hey Ramius, don't answer that, shes dodgy you know

Probably wants to issue a "warrant" on your wages!

(be especially worried if you owe money on fines)

*waits for bite, or arse kicking which ever comes first*

Ooooh...an ATW....scary stuff....so what do you think I do for a job, that is when I am not on ACC and licking my own man breasts?

**Ramius** · 10th June 2005, 16:41

Originally Posted by Str8 Jacket

Where exactly do you work dude? . . . . This sounds remarkebly familiar

Ooooh...ATM ACC works for me...but, just last night, some random person on the street said I looked familiar, and often people say I am remarkable, so, I guess that makes me remarkably familiar?

Rep points for whoever can tell me where I work (Just because I can't remember)

**jazbug5** · 10th June 2005, 16:44

Originally Posted by Fart

You known how the new Motorway proposal is budgeted to cost us $billions? Why not use all those FREE labour in prison to build the motorways for us? Free prison labour should reduce our motorway construction cost by at least 30%. And when they come out of prison they should have a skill as a construction worker. There should be no excuse for not working. Problems solved !

Great on paper, but wouldn't that result in higher unemployment down the line..?

Personally, I find it hard to believe that property can be put at a higher value than people's lives; and why is it that 'white collar' thieves (that usually get away with much higher sums) get less time than 'ordinary' thieves...? Hmmm.

**Ramius** · 10th June 2005, 16:46

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

Agreed - but I find it hard to take your posts seriously with that guy... doing that thing in your avatar...

oooo it's disturbing...
MDU

There you go, for the sanity of you, and all those others that find it hard to watch a grown man lick his own nipples, I have changed my evil ways and gone for a more subdue picture...