War widow pension cuts 'Just plain wrong'

**mashman** · 15th November 2010, 10:29

Seems like a bit of an insult to me wonder if the pollies have cut their pension yet? probably not... Would this affect NZ, being part of the crown and all?

**Dave Lobster** · 15th November 2010, 11:09

Curious they haven't cut the foreign aid bill.

**mashman** · 15th November 2010, 11:19

I'm pretty sure there are a lot of things that need to and could be cut before you start picking on those who have defended the freedom of their country and their retirement fund... Unfortunately it's probably too much like hard work and they're an easy target. Wonder if the soldiers will go on strike?

**Oscar** · 15th November 2010, 11:50

Originally Posted by mashman

Seems like a bit of an insult to me wonder if the pollies have cut their pension yet? probably not... Would this affect NZ, being part of the crown and all?

Part of the Crown?
Who are you?
Ruyard Kipling?

New Zealand is an independant dominon, and our head of state just happens to also be the head of state of some fading kingdom in the North Sea.

**mashman** · 15th November 2010, 12:18

Originally Posted by Oscar

Part of the Crown?
Who are you?
Ruyard Kipling?

New Zealand is an independant dominon, and our head of state just happens to also be the head of state of some fading kingdom in the North Sea.

you really wouldn't like the answer to that question

...

So does that mean the UK pensions debacle will affect NZ war pensions or not? I seek enlightenment

, being new here and all... I would have expected more from a Curmudgeon.

**admenk** · 15th November 2010, 13:39

Originally Posted by Oscar

Part of the Crown?

New Zealand is an independant dominon, and our head of state just happens to also be the head of state of some fading kingdom in the North Sea.

But it's also a convenient phrase the NZ Government like to use when they bring in anything that might not be universally liked. Makes it sound like you're dealing with that fading kingdom you mention, when really it's NZer's all along - unless there's still some legal reason for the term being used.

**MisterD** · 15th November 2010, 14:17

Originally Posted by mashman

wonder if the pollies have cut their pension yet?

Well if you read the article you will see that what is happening is that they are changing the index-linking on all public sector pensions from the RPI to CPI (both measures of inflation but the CPI doesn't included housing costs and is usually a lower number) so that would include the pollies and the civil service.

It just looks to me like the opposition and media have picked one group with a lot of public support to produce an anti-government story.

**mashman** · 15th November 2010, 14:26

Originally Posted by MisterD

Well if you read the article you will see that what is happening is that they are changing the index-linking on all public sector pensions from the RPI to CPI (both measures of inflation but the CPI doesn't included housing costs and is usually a lower number) so that would include the pollies and the civil service.

It just looks to me like the opposition and media have picked one group with a lot of public support to produce an anti-government story.

It doesn't say all. It just says "Widows and injured personnel will be affected by reforms to public sector pensions". That, to me, does not mean all, but I see how it could to others

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Whichever way you want to slice it, it's still a cut in their pension value. Which is a fuckin dispicable way to treat your "protectors"...