Dirtbike Illuminati
There was a guy in a discussion page on the Pike River FaceBook who said that he would go in on a mountain bike with a respirator and check it all out for them....Originally Posted by Dadpole
If you want to see armchair experts at their finest, I suggest you have a look on the Trademe forum.
I really despair for the future of the country if that lot are allowed to vote and breed.It is so tempting to visit them with an axe.
Retired- just some guy with a few bikes......
Forum whore
I always consider who is speaking when deciding whether they have anything worth listening to.
Notable is that the multitude of people who are experts, qualified and experienced - who were there doing the job or contributing their knowledge and expertise from abroad - were not criticising the rescue efforts or the spokesmen. They were not saying, "Go in, go in!" They had access to all the data and were analysing it constantly looking for an opportunity to get in there.
The criticisms and ire, came from people who have no qualifications, no experience, were not there doing the job and wouldn't know where to start if they were...
Funny that....
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
Shorai Powersports batteries are very trick!
NEDWN VIII
If Peter Whittall said it wasn't a happening thing, then it wasn't a happening thing.
and THAT should be THAT.
thread closed.
Hardcore Biker
I as a layperson watched this unfold and listened to the explanations given as to the reasons behind not going in, for me much greater understanding came from the post earlier by T.E.W. about page 7, to the gas mixes that become volatile, however as I mentioned in an earlier post in time frame around the second explosion, according to a "first person" interview on National Radio, the rescuers were actually kitting up and were going to enter the mine, thankfully the explosion occurred when it did. How did they come to the decision at that time to attempt to go in?I always consider who is speaking when deciding whether they have anything worth listening to.
Notable is that the multitude of people who are experts, qualified and experienced - who were there doing the job or contributing their knowledge and expertise from abroad - were not criticising the rescue efforts or the spokesmen. They were not saying, "Go in, go in!" They had access to all the data and were analysing it constantly looking for an opportunity to get in there.
The criticisms and ire, came from people who have no qualifications, no experience, were not there doing the job and wouldn't know where to start if they were...
Funny that....
Don't judge me based upon your ignorance.
Forum whore
That does contradict what Peter Whittall said today. Interestingly the Mines Rescue Manager just now on CloseUp said that from the time of the first explosion due to it rupturing a gas line there was 800lt per second of Methane gas being released into the mine. There was no "window of opportunity" at any time.
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
Shorai Powersports batteries are very trick!
Hardcore Biker
To my surprise I find myself grieving for men I did not know. When the news came through yesterday, I was sitting in the cab of my truck, stuck in traffic. I could see tears streaming down the faces of people in the cars around me. I am not one for crying, yet I cried too.
These were ''ordinary'' men, working hard in difficult and dangerous circumstances in order to provide for those they loved.
Today New Zealand is grieving for them like I have never seen before. I belive this is in some part due to the principles they are seen to represent. This is in no way a bad thing.
Thanks to these men, my faith in my fellow man is stronger than it was before.
My condelences to the families.
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.
Forum whore
Agree with both of you, but doubt everyone will leave off the thread for a bit.
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
Shorai Powersports batteries are very trick!
Scooter boy
I wasn't "banging on", I was just voicing an opinion. Also, with the benefit of hindsight (something we all now have) there was a window of days; so letting in those who wished to go in would not have been an issue (in that respect alone). If the 3-4 hrs was all they had and it then went pear-shaped then that's on their head, so to speak.
After that 3-4hrs it was deemed to be increasingly dodgey (by the hour) but as we now know it took days for another explosion. It's an absolute bugger all round but I still have this niggling feeling that those at the top were being overly cautious when some were willing to tread what could have been a deadly trail.
Those that put their hands up at that time deserve some respect.
Scooter boy
That changes my thoughts on things somewhat.
It's amazing how knowing all the facts before opening your mouth can stop you looking like a Trademe messageboarder
Scooter boy
I would suggest nobody here knows ALL the facts. Or anyone anywhere for that matter.
Den tha thriamvéf̱sei páno̱
Straight to the point regarding the 'immediate window' at 1.05 http://tvnz.co.nz/close-up/man-leadi...-3916318/video
There's no words to encompass it all.
Sad day, thoughts are with the families, may they find strength together and rely on the support offered in the weeks and months ahead.
ter·ra in·cog·ni·taAchievement is not always success while reputed failure often is. It is honest endeavor, persistent effort to do the best possible under any and all circumstances.
Orison Swett Marden
Forum whore
Got a txt from a mate in Grey today.
I asked him how things are down there.
"Not good m8. We all in shock. dunno wot to say or do.
We gettin sick of media askin stupid questions. They should fuck off now."
I mentioned vegetables once, but I think I got away with it...........
Scooter boy
On that we are united.
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