Juniors & the South Island Nationals

[oyster]

The idea of a championship for Production Light has merit but beforehand there is a lot of work to be done before it'll be ready.

Promote, recruit, train and support.

Do this effectively for a few years and you'll have a consistent and "good quality" field that will benefit from a championship.
But I doubt youth (13 to 16 year olds) will fill the grid. It's more like the punters in this class will be older people just looking for cheap racing, mostly at club level.
At the moment Streetstock in the south is well proven class producing bulk numbers of teenage talent, now filling national classes as high up as 600SP. At the weekend I saw a bunch of 17 and 18 year olds slugging it out on 600's at Nation
Champ pace.

Having a Production Light championship now with less than 2 months notice, no promotion and with very small current club fields is just crazy. I doubt it'll happen anyway, as the rules need to be changed to allow champ status. There isn't the time.

Oh, and Puddytat, Sorry if I implied you're dead, as you're certainly not! You rode so well on Sat! Well done. I admire your spirit and the way you help the young ones around you. Thanks heaps.

[Billy]

Having a Production Light championship now with less than 2 months notice, no promotion and with very small current club fields is just crazy. I doubt it'll happen anyway, as the rules need to be changed to allow champ status. There isn't the time.

Sorry pete,Dont know where your getting your information from,But I spent the day with the roadrace commission chairman yesterday at HD and the Prolite 250 championship WILL kick off at round 1 of the NZSBK Championship January 29 2011,The only ingredient missing at this stage as far as MNZ are concerned is the 6 riders on the grid,I have also had confirmation of this from MCC and Grant Ramage race organiser for round 1 at Timaru.

[Kevin G]

The 250 twin class was always a championship class, It was not a championship last year due to lack of numbers.

[puddytat]

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But I doubt youth (13 to 16 year olds) will fill the grid. It's more like the punters in this class will be older people just looking for cheap racing, mostly at club level.
At the moment Streetstock in the south is well proven class producing bulk numbers of teenage talent, now filling national classes as high up as 600SP. At the weekend I saw a bunch of 17 and 18 year olds slugging it out on 600's at Nation
Champ pace.

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i think you right on it with the oldies possibly making up the bulk of riders, I have had several mention that they'd like to give it a go,but mostly on older or unhomologated models, which dont qualify for the class
Yes the Club & yourself must be stoked at the young fellas yourve mentored so well ,coming thru into the other formulas.....
I do think the class will take off, but it'll just take some time & I do hope that there'll be sufficient numbers for all the rounds.....Id do Ruapuna round if I was allowed,& wouldnt give a toss if I wasnt timed or points eligible.

[Yow Ling]

Maybe they can just start the prolites off the back of the Streetstocks like they do with the Buckets

[oyster]

Billy
My information (or lack of) has come from MNZ, NZSBK, and our club websites
and is totally accurate. Tell what is not correct?
I'd be kidding if I wasn't aware of rumours saying there was to be a championship, but we all know the ratio of truth to rumours is about 10 to 1!
If these rumours are being circulated amongst an "old boy network" excluding the mainstream communication (MNZ website) then this IS seriously wrong and grossly unfair to the 5000 or so members left completely in the dark

Prove me wrong and show me where in Appendix "D" this class exists, or, for that matter any promotion advising members of an upcoming championship.

Kevin.
Go to Appendix "D"
There is no Prolite, Production Light or 250 twin class listed. If is is/was a championship class then how were members meant to know?
I was specifically told by Paul Stewart (RR Commissioner then. Board member now) some time ago Production light is a future replacement for Streetstock and it will NOT be a championship class.

[Billy]

Billy
My information (or lack of) has come from MNZ, NZSBK, and our club websites
and is totally accurate. Tell what is not correct?
I'd be kidding if I wasn't aware of rumours saying there was to be a championship, but we all know the ratio of truth to rumours is about 10 to 1!
If these rumours are being circulated amongst an "old boy network" excluding the mainstream communication (MNZ website) then this IS seriously wrong and grossly unfair to the 5000 or so members left completely in the dark

Prove me wrong and show me where in Appendix "D" this class exists, or, for that matter any promotion advising members of an upcoming championship.

Sorry mate,Cant even access the appendix on the MNZ website as I stated earlier in the thread ,My server wont allow me ,So Ive be fully reliant on information received from the chairman of the roadrace commission,MNZ President,Email confirmation from a Motorcycling Canterbury committee member and phone confirmation from Grant Ramage race organiser for South Canterbury mcc and all these people assure me it is happening

[Billy]

Maybe they can just start the prolites off the back of the Streetstocks like they do with the Buckets

Wouldnt be stupid,But information I have received from MCC is they will start from wherever they qualify within the streetstock grid.

[oyster]

I think you've confirmed all the information is moving around in a very small circle of people "in the know". There is certainly no information in the "public domain"
What puzzles me is what is the motivation to keep it such a secret.
I'm not giving you a hard time Billy, I think you're effort is fantastic and all the right way to promote and support this class. It's just the leadership structure you're working within that seems a bit wobbly.

[oyster]

I think you've confirmed all the information is moving around in a very small circle of people "in the know". There is certainly no information in the "public domain"
What puzzles me is what is the motivation to keep it such a secret.
I'm not giving you a hard time Billy, I think your effort is fantastic and all the right way to promote and support this class. It's just the leadership structure you're working within that seems a bit wobbly.

[Billy]

I think you've confirmed all the information is moving around in a very small circle of people "in the know". There is certainly no information in the "public domain"
What puzzles me is what is the motivation to keep it such a secret.
I'm not giving you a hard time Billy, I think your effort is fantastic and all the right way to promote and support this class. It's just the leadership structure you're working within that seems a bit wobbly.

Never for a minute thought you were Pete,I just have too keep the momentum moving in a positive manner and after all it is a public forum where everybodys entitled to voice their opinion

[lostinflyz]

so who wants to apply

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