Pansy Wong and others

**phill-k** · 12th November 2010, 18:03

I'm struggling with the issues surrounding members of parliament that commit these various breaches seem to just be demoted.

In the big bad world if you were to breach a company's rules and regs such as Wong has surely you would be forced to resign or even face criminal charges.

At the end of the day she has actually breached the rules of her perk, why knowing the rule is pretty simple do MP's that do run foul just get demoted but remain on the payroll.

You have a company car, you are allowed to drive it to and from work, as well as use at work, you take it to Hamilton (fuck knows why - hot chick) you are found out and dismissed.

Surely if a member of Parliament breaches the rules of their employment they should walk whats the bloody story.

I'm not just thinking of Patsy here it just seems that these guys are more and more living in lala land

**slofox** · 12th November 2010, 18:11

I think they have been doing it forever...

One of my earliest political memories involved the family of a certain well known MP of the day grabbing a whole lot of land that was later taken into the Tongariro Power scheme...thereby making a "minor profit"...

**PirateJafa** · 12th November 2010, 18:25

Originally Posted by phill-k

Hamilton ... hot chick

Dream on.

**merv** · 12th November 2010, 18:27

The old saying was "give them an inch and they'll take a mile" and so many people get into high places and just rape and pillage the accounts and its not just MP's.

There's the Watsons and Hotchins and Rod Petrivic and all the other greedy finance company bastards. There seems to be no honesty at that level.

Perhaps that's why I don't have my 30 million Euro yacht parked in the harbour at Genoa, I'm too bloody honest.

p.s. where is Finn these days while his Government is doing this stuff?

**SPman** · 12th November 2010, 18:56

Surely if a member of Parliament breaches the rules of their employment they should walk whats the bloody story.

I'm not just thinking of Patsy here it just seems that these guys are more and more living in lala land

If you or I do it, it's called Fraud, or "using a document for pecuniary advantage" and we are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law!

She'll just pay the money back and it'll be considered OK.

One law for them and fuck the rest of us.......

**tri boy** · 12th November 2010, 19:06

She has walked.
JK accepted her portfolio resignation.

**FJRider** · 12th November 2010, 19:17

Originally Posted by tri boy

She has walked.
JK accepted her portfolio resignation.

Unless I'm wrong (often am) ... She is STILL a member of the national party, she is STILL a Member of Parliament....

Just NOT a member of caucus....

With the pay-cut that comes with that ...

**Motu** · 12th November 2010, 19:17

Muldoon wouldn't have layed down and got dragged over the coals for a few perks - he was a tough motherfucker who took all he could get and no one said a thing.Not like the pansy pollies these days.

**Swoop** · 12th November 2010, 19:21

Originally Posted by phill-k

I'm struggling with the issues surrounding members of parliament that commit these various breaches

It has been happening for long enough, by EACH party.

The sooner that an MP is ONLY permitted to travel ON OFFICIAL BUSINESS ONLY and when voted out of parliament by the public, their perks cease IMMEDIATELY... the better!
Their partners, wives, kids are NOT voted into office and are therefore NOT entitled to suck on the taxpayer's teat.

**pete376403** · 12th November 2010, 19:23

Originally Posted by Motu

Muldoon wouldn't have layed down and got dragged over the coals for a few perks - he was a tough motherfucker who took all he could get and no one said a thing.Not like the pansy pollies these days.

Agree he was a tough bastard but did he enrich himself by using his position?
And once he became leader, he certainly didn't allow anyone else too much leeway. I recall reading that on the first day of his new government, he asked for (and got) a signed, undated letter of resignation from everyone in his government.

**mashman** · 12th November 2010, 19:28

Originally Posted by Swoop

It has been happening for long enough, by EACH party.

The sooner that an MP is ONLY permitted to travel ON OFFICIAL BUSINESS ONLY and when voted out of parliament by the public, their perks cease IMMEDIATELY... the better!
Their partners, wives, kids are NOT voted into office and are therefore NOT entitled to suck on the taxpayer's teat.

I'm happy with that.

**pzkpfw** · 12th November 2010, 19:34

I hate Pansy since she got National to push through legislation that tried to make calling traditional Chinese medicine bullshit into some kind of libel offence.

Glad to see her (partly, at least) go.

(Someone at work once pinned up business cards of some accupuncture clinic on the notice board. Just (!) to provide balance I pinned up some take-away URL's to the quack watch web page on accupuncture. So this person then sticks up a notice pointing out this legislation with the comment "you know this is libel and you can be charged...". Fuck off. (I looked it up: the legislation allows a "personal opinion" to be expressed.))

**rainman** · 13th November 2010, 08:24

Originally Posted by pzkpfw

Fuck off.

Y'know, I'm sure a homeopath would be able to help you with your anger issues..

J/k - but what's the name of act you're talking about? (TCM isn't all shit, btw, neither is all acupuncture).

Wong (and all other pollies that do the same) should be gone because this is fundamentally a dishonesty offence: claiming a perk when you are not entitled to it. In her case it sounds like it wasn't just once either.

**pzkpfw** · 13th November 2010, 10:38

Originally Posted by rainman

Y'know, I'm sure a homeopath would be able to help you with your anger issues..

J/k - but what's the name of act you're talking about?

I did search last night but couldn't find it. I did, back then, because this note helpfully had the number of the legislation so it was easy to google up. i.e. I'm sure it's real because I've seen it and read it, but I can't actually prove it to you right now. Sorry.

(My Father taught me "anger is an energy". And he'd never even heard of P.I.L.)