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    How does this fit with the BS "they" feed us on global warming?

    So it's getting warmer? .... Well maybe not!

    http://climatechange.imva.info/cooling/telling-colder

    Surely vested interest parties would not deliberately lie to us and shield us from the truth! Well, you be the judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post
    Surely vested interest parties would not deliberately lie to us and shield us from the truth!
    ....have they ever stopped....

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    http://www.treehugger.com/files/2010...-on-record.php

    There's heaps of links on this.

    And closer to home.

    "In the Waikato, we're seeing low soil moisture levels that we don't normally expect to see until the end of January and after the winter we've had that's not good at all," says Stew Wadey, Federated Farmers Waikato provincial president.

    We're also experiencing higher temperatures than normal, on Sunday Hamilton recorded the highest temperature for November in 100 years. This certainly doesn't help and due to evapotranspiration, we're losing in excess of 5 millilitres a day of soil moisture due to the heat.


    FROM http://www.fedfarm.org.nz/n2539.html

    This link below is pretty lengthy. It debunks Lord Monkton who is one of the better known climate change deniers.

    http://www.stthomas.edu/engineering/jpabraham/



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    It's no longer referred to as 'Global Warming', rather 'Climate Change'. I guess no one can argue with them now. Fuckers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyryder View Post
    ...due to evapotranspiration, we're losing in excess of 5 millilitres a day of soil moisture due to the heat....
    Scary! That's like, a teaspoon of water EVERY day. From an area the size of Waikato, no less.
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyryder View Post
    We're also experiencing higher temperatures than normal, on Sunday Hamilton recorded the highest temperature for November in 100 years.
    Jesus....it's farkin cold in the northern hemisphere, so of course it's gonna be farkin hot down here. Duh!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyryder View Post
    From your link:
    And all of this has occurred in a year where there was a declining El Niño effect and a very strong La Niña cooling things down--which according the UK's Met Office will hold global temperatures down enough so that 2011 will likely not set a new record, even if being in the top 10 warmest years recorded.
    This paragraph sums up most of it really. "..there was a declining El Niño effect.." and as any climatologist will tell you, the effects on temperature lag El-Nino and La-Nina by 6 to 9 months. The recent La-Nina started to show up in May, and its only in November that global temperatures are really starting to fall. The Tropics have already dropped below the 1979-1998 average, and the Global anomaly has fallen from 0.603 in september to 0.381 in November.


    Yes, New Zealand is currently seeing a warm spell of weather, (not climate) and the reason can be seen right here: http://weather.unisys.com/surface/sst_anom.gif

    Note the very warm patch of water in the Tasman sea. It has been growing warmer there ever since the blocking high established itsel around 15 days ago. This is typical of a southern La-Nina pattern, and I'm picking warm dry conditions on average right through until at least May. The cold water south of Australia may cool down coastal areas of westrn New Zealand in mid summer, but probably won't have any major effect on the rest of the country.
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    its got fuck all to do with climate and everything to do with money

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    Probably caused by the "hole in the ozone layer".
    That has become substantially smaller...


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    I remember the Global Cooling scare of the 70s. Combine that with the ever present threat of Nuclear War and you had really paranoid kids worrying about stuff that they shouldn't be thinking about.

    This is just another load of bollocks designed to create an industry that harvests money on a global scale. Oops.

    Climate changes. Get over it. It doesn't matter what causes the change, once we notice its effects it's too late to "fix" it. Spend money learning to adapt, not trying ineffective retrograde steps that impoverish the majority of the world's population. Oops.

    There is a theory on modern human development that postulates that we're descended from a family of 40 people escaping a major drought that overwhelmed the African continent 1 million years ago. Their major strength was imagination. They created water and food caches as they tried to escape dwindling resources.

    40 people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    40 people.
    Hows it going cuz!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimO View Post
    its got fuck all to do with climate and everything to do with money
    ....not unlike the Romans congealing a lot of the older beliefs, religions etc into their all powerful scare machine, the RC Church....kept the worlds nuts in its grasp for nigh on two thousand years....all for power and money extorted through fear....

    ....a lot of humanity...western...can see through that now....but it doesnt mean they havent got over their need to fear something.....perfect time for a bunch of money hungry bastards to feed them as much as they like....

    .....probably is due in some part, to mans urge to keep getting bigger and better and more careless with the planet....

    ....if their is a god, Im in the shit.....if we have fucked the planet , we are in the shit.....I know only a couple or three, green minded people that dont drive or have a toaster....but I seem to be surrounded by greenies.....it has taken on a cultish type status.....the new religion....based on twisted truths and destined to make someone a lot of money...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usarka View Post
    Hows it going cuz!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyryder View Post
    ...This link below is pretty lengthy. It debunks Lord Monkton who is one of the better known climate change deniers.

    http://www.stthomas.edu/engineering/jpabraham/
    Two points.

    First of all, why would you call Lord Monkton a climate change denier? From my reading of him, and watching a few live prestentations (eg Chicago conference), I have never heard him deny climate change. Rather he shows climate change all the back to the RWP.

    Now to that presentation by Abraham. He certainly doesn't debunk Monkton anywhere. he raises strawman aguments, claiming that Monkton said xyz, when actually Monton had said something totally different.

    Here is Monkton's response: http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpre...m-abra-qq2.pdf
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